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No earnings, no price

"If you give me $1, I promise to give you 15¢". The SMH cannot understand why people aren't taking up this outstanding offer. I think I can ...

The offer is for the purchase of ANZ shares with a guaranteed dividend that amounts to more than 15% of the price. Michael Pascoe of BusinessDay thinks that if we don't take this up we're saying we don't believe that the banks are being run by competent people - and what's more the share price has the possibility of capital growth!

This is a classic piece of dud thinking whose underlying assumption is that when all this nasty stuff blows over it'll all be back to how it was pre-2007. But it almost certainly won't do that.

Back to basics

Time to rehearse some really  basic stuff. Some people still believe that the stock market is about raising capital for business, but that hasn't been true for many years: if you net off the IPOs with share buybacks, there has been no net new capital raised on most of the developed world's stock markets since the 1970s. So, when you buy a share, you are simply buying an annuity - a future revenue stream of dividends - from someone else who thinks that it is overpriced (or they wouldn't be selling).

If the stock markets were rational, the share price would be approximately equal to the net present value of all future dividends discounted at the cost of capital plus an estimate of the risk of those dividends not being paid. BTW, there is no evidence that stock markets have ever been rational (notwithstanding the never-ending financial page attempts to give rational explanations for what happens on them), but we'll leave that for another day.

People also punt their belief that the stock price may rise, giving a capital gain at some future date - but in the long run this just amounts to a belief that the dividend stream will rise enough to justify that price rise, and that future gain should also be discounted into the NPV. Sellers meanwhile are in effect saying they believe that the prospect for dividends is lower than the market is currently pricing. An alternative way of looking at it is that sellers believe that there is a high risk that the dividend stream won't be sustained, and hence discount the future payments at a higher discount rate.

Long-run basic part 2: dividends get paid out of earnings (unless the business is being run as a cash cow without reference to long-term viability - which the unkind might say is the Macquarie model). So, the deal is, we look at the dividend yield (dividend divided by share price), or, as a proxy for that, the price-earnings ratio (share price divided by profits).

What's wrong with this picture?

So, is the share price for ANZ unbelievably cheap, with a promised 15.3% dividend yield? Well, only if you believe that the ANZ share price will still be at least as much as it is today after the dividend has been paid, so that after the dividend you can potentially sell it and get your initial dollars back.

However, if you happen to believe for some reason that there is a prospect that future earnings will be lower than last year's, then you might believe that after the next payment future dividends will also be lower - and that therefore the share price once you've collected the dividend might be lower. If you think that the future earnings => dividends => share price might be as much as 8% lower, then that extraordinary, unmissable high yield gets reduced to the long-term average. If you, for some inexplicable reason, think that it's possible that share prices might fall even more than 8% over the next month, then that guaranteed dividend isn't high enough to support even the current price.

The rub

Other recent commentaries have similar speculations, which all boil down to a belief that the market has reached a bottom because the Div or P/E ratios have fallen to some particular benchmark. But the rub is: that's assuming there are future earnings. In a recession, no-one can guarantee profitability, nor easily predict when profitability will return (or indeed whether the business will have the cash to survive losses for as long as it takes). No profits means no dividends means no bottom to the share price above 1¢.

Volatility

In practice, no-one has a clue what the future dividend stream for individual shares is likely to be, and hence any share price, "high" or "low" is a punt. In these circumstances it is not at all surprising that share prices have been volatile: on one recent day, the Dow moved by 10% in a few hours (from 3% below the opening value to close more than 7% up). Unless you're buying an index fund, you have to buy individual shares, and these have been even more volatile.

The unrefusable offer of 15¢ on the dollar suddenly looks all-too-possible to miss.

Disclosure: the Roffey family don't own any shares at all except those vicariously owned through the UK pension schemes of PA Consulting Group and the London Borough of Haringey.

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Another one

Malcolm Maiden in this morning's Herald

Every 1% this market loses is 1% closer to the bottom. That simply cannot be far away, with shares in the S&P/ASX 200 Index now priced at 9.2 times earnings ...

Sure, 9.2 times historic earnings, but what about future earnings? 

No work - more time to drink

Actually alcohol is a good business to be in when things are tough. People keep drinking and they have more time to do it - so long as they have the pennies.

I like downturns, more time to drink and have fun - but you gotta have no or manageable debt.

On another note Citicorp's share price copped a hiding last night. Someone mentioned to me today they had heard a rumour Citicorp has a problem with derivatives to the tune of a trillion bucks. But there is nothing to support that yet.

It's may well be a rumour but sooner or later we are going to be hearing a lot more about these very clever contracts and the very clever bastards who promoted them, such as Citicorp.

Another fine quote

Austock senior client adviser Michael Heffernan said the market may close as much as 4% lower, but the plunging shares offered good value to brave investors."When Foster's drops 3% because the American market falls 5%, that's got to be absolutely good value," he said. "Just because the US on one night drops that much, it's got absolutely nothing to do with whether people are walking into a grocery store or drinking a beer today."

OTOH, if the US market falls 5% because GM and Ford might go out of business, and that might mean Holden and Ford Australia (and all of their suppliers) at least lay off staff, if not go out of business, that just might have something to do with how many beers they buy next year.

As Malcolm said, who pays these people? 

Agricultural by-product

SMH today published Food for thought as other crisis hits hard under the by-line of the Minister for Agriculture. It reads as though he believes there are no limits to the good that industrial processes will bring to production of food.

A news release from CSIRO about Alzheimer's and folate concludes

Although folate is abundant in foods like leafy green vegetables, pulses and liver, CSIRO studies have shown that many Australians do not consume enough folate to benefit from its ability to prevent cell damage. Folate levels can, however, be readily restored by dietary folate supplementation.

My brief comment is appended to a good response at iTWire.

My question to Mr Burke is "Would he be happy if the entire world's supply of folate supplement was synthesised in a single factory in Asia?"

That isn't as stupid as it may sound. Burke's penchant for monoculture (the intent of some major investments in GM food) is reflected in the fact that most of the chooks under intensive farming for their meat and eggs are from a single line of genetic stock.  There are big risks in allowing food stocks to drift away from diversity towards fewer lines of highly manipulated species. The enthusiasm of Mr Burke and Fairfax to pursue industrialisation of the food supply through the method of wiping out the unwanted stocks is quite out of sync  with other messages promoted by the government. In other portfolios, diversity is preached as a good thing, and so it is. Diversity of choice in schools, health care and financial products. What about diversity in agriculture and horticulture, and the need for popular media to be more careful of printing re-hashed plugs for corporate culture?

Diving at the last

I'm interested by the fact that in the last half-hour of trading (also the realtime last half-hour at time of writing) the Dow fell nearly two percent (out of a 5% fall over the day). This has been the pattern on several recent days' trading.

One plausible explanation is that a lot of the the people buying in the market don't actually want to hold those shares overnight, in case something nasty is hiding under the bed.

The summertime, when the Dow doesn't close until 8am Sydney, is nervous enough for ASX traders, but I guess if you can't tell where the Dow will be until just before 8am, they could have a little extra lie-in before putting on the green eyeshades. 

And the end-of week jump?

I find it hard to believe that a 6.5% jump on Wall Street could be attributed to Obama picking his treasury. But then there is a lot I don't understand about this economic situation, however hard I try.

Thanks for this article, David. It did help.

Market irrationality

Hamish, lovely to see you back on Webdiary. Ian McAuley's paper (see the You can see a lot by just looking: Understanding human judgement in financial decision-making thread) explains some of what is going on (and always has gone on, and will go on...). In my totally naïve view, it also has a lot to do with the deification of the Market, including all the irrational beliefs that go with having done so: the Market "knows" (i.e., is omniscient), and the Market "sentiment" is (i.e., driven by whim).

And in one or two decades it will be déjà vu all over again.

Dr Reynolds, really

The market is driven not by whim but by wimmin - and most of them old wimmin at that.

Headless chooks

The nature of "Nature" is universal. There's going to be a lot more up and downing before this rough ride is over.

At the moment, those who depend to a large extent on trading in financial products resemble nothing so much as a herd of deer being stalked by a leopard on a moonless night. They don't know which way to run, driven by fear. Fear of further loss and fear of missing out.

There is no logic in their decisions, just the collective consciousness of the herd. Their actions matter not one whit; the downward momentum is too strong and the reasons for it well in place.

Just another scam

Michael Pascoe should be out at Royal Randwick working for a bookie as he puts his case so convincingly. Of course he couldn't do the obvious and stand there and tell every punter out loud to bet on each horse for a guaranteed return - but a sharp suit, some dark sunglasses and sidling up to a gambler every now and then and whispering a tidbit about a certain horse which will guarantee a good return is bound to work on many.

Gambling on the share market isn't any different, is it?

Gambling on the share market isn't any different, is it?

Well, Michael de Angelos it is: fewer horses more horseshit.

The bleeding obvious

David Roffey, if it is that bleeding obvious (and it is) to you and me why (1) are most of these cretins worth more on paper than we ever could be, (2) who pays finanacial journalists, and (3) who sets the salaries for both?

I just sell my body and my mind. Wonder if what I recoup is the actual value of what they are truly worth? Now, there's a frightening prospect: bankrupt for a dollar; dead bankrupt for a dividend.

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