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Oil Dollar Euro ULPI'm interested by the claim repeated in numerous news analyses that "investors are buying oil to hedge against the sliding greenback" - and also the likewise repeated claim that we are only now in record territory, because the oil price reached an inflation adjusted USD100+ in 1980. Both of these statements point us toward looking carefully at the history and current position in terms of what has actually happened in oil prices, inflation generally, exchange rates, and various measures of energy intensity - ie what you actually get out of a barrel of oil in terms of, for example, mileage or production generally. US Inflation Let's start with the inflation claim. A useful CNN article from a couple of weeks back explains some of the complications:
Aussie Inflation From our point of view at the edge of the world economy (geographically, anyway), we can add further complications of our own exchange rate and inflation. Fascinatingly, the Aussie in March 1980 was worth ... US92¢ ! - so no significant exchange rate adjustment needed. Australian inflation since 1980 (using the RBA inflation calculator) is a little over 250%, so, working it through: a US$38 barrel in March 1980 was A$41.30, inflated to today is A$145.80, which at today's rate of 94.6¢ is US$138. I leave it to the economists among you to work out just why the difference - and the underlying question of why the exchange rate and inflation rates have diverged so much. Actually, to help you with this piece of homework, you probably only have to wonder about the last two years, since the equivalent figures in April '06 would have been: Aus inflation 232%, inflated barrel A$137.30 at US74¢ = US$101.60, which is pretty much exactly in line with the inflated figure for the US at that date. Exchange Rates Unwinding ourselves from the convolutions of the calculations in the last paragraph, we can see that the 26% increase in the USD value of the Aussie dollar over the last two years has been a substantial analgesic against the pain of the 57% increase in the oil price over that time. I am, of course, being Aussie-centric in that paragraph: the trade-weighted index for the Aussie is only up 12% since April '06, and the USD is 11% of the TWI, so around two-thirds of the analgesic came from the general fall in the US dollar against everyone else, and one-third from the appreciation of the Aussie against everyone else. This brings us back to that claim that the price rises are currently being driven by the fall in the dollar. In 2008 so far, the headline West Texas Light Crude oil price is up a nice round 10%, from $100 to $110, while the dollar against a not-randomly-chosen euro is down 3.3% (from 0.666€¢ to 0.645€¢). In fact, it is probably worth at this point looking at a slightly longer history of oil prices in euros vs dollars (and we'll get the Aussie in at the same time, for completeness). To save space, I've only included the points at which the oil price crossed a headline round ten-dollar increment. WTLC when? €:$ price in € A$:US$ price in A$ The first and most obvious thing to say from this table is that the dollar has been pretty steadily depreciating against current strong currencies like the euro and the Aussie for a very long time: the euro to dollar rate is pretty much a straight line from 2000 to 2008, with a pimple on it in early 2005 and just a tad of acceleration in the last six months. The Aussie to greenback chart is almost identical apart from a wider pimple. The oil price chart, on the other hand, wobbles around all over the place until 2004 (there are three separate places where the $30 mark is passed for significant periods of time), climbs fairly steadily at around a $ a month until mid-2007, then accelerates to a steady $10 per quarter from then on. There is no real relation between this graph and the dollar depreciation graphs at all. Well, it may yet be part of the explanation, but there's no evidence here for the "depreciation drives price" theory: the (over-simplified) euro-denominated price graph is interesting enough to include here: The underlying shape is the same as the USD oil price graph but has those two interesting flattish areas - on the face of it, there is some evidence to suggest that the oil price has been fairly steady denominated in euros for quite long periods of time, but has in fact accelerated over the last year in exactly the same way that the USD price has. Also, prima facie, unless whatever forces are driving the oil price change, we can reasonably expect this trend to continue, and see the next few milestones as $120 in June, $130 in August/September, and the mid-$140s at the year end. Of course, if we took our trend of the last two weeks, it would all be a lot faster than that. What happened in mid-2007? One thing that didn't happen was that world economic growth didn't accelerate - in fact, it began to slow down, which on the face of it should have taken pressure off of prices. Here's CNNmoney again:
We've already noted that the dollar depreciation curve did accelerate, but by nothing like the extent that the oil price did. So, what did happen? Well, here's a handy table extracted from the International Energy Agency World Oil Balances report: Date World Oil Supply World Oil Demand Now, can we notice something here? What's the trend in the supply column? And what happened in 2007? And does it help if we point out that the IEA forecasts demand to average 87.6mbd through 2008? So, unless supply grows, demand will exceed supply by a little over 1mbd throughout 2008, And might we apply a little very basic economic science here to predict what happens to prices when demand exceeds supply consistently every day? What about OPEC? Are they holding us to ransom? That extra 1.2mbd in the last quarter of 2007 essentially all came from OPEC, despite the fact that OPEC now only accounts for 42% of world supply, Since the IEA forecasts no increase at all in non-OPEC supply in 2008until the fourth quarter, if there is no increase in OPEC supply, then there will be no day in 2008 in which supply meets demand, hence continuing upward pressure on prices - and presumably at some point real market failures as the low bidders fail to acquire enough oil to do whatever they wanted it for. On the other hand, OPEC now claims that there is no supply problem that justifies a further increase in OPEC production.
The most recent OPEC Monthly Oil Market Report, February 2008 [1MB pdf], says:
Why do they think this? - not because they anticipate a worldwide recession:
On yet another other hand:
... so world demand is going to grow, and non-OPEC supply is going to grow less than that (and the IEA doesn't agree it's going to grow at all) - but OPEC demand will fall - does not compute, surely ... Well, actually it's an artifact, driven in the detail of the forecast entirely by a much larger forecast drop in demand in the second quarter, as the northern hemisphere warms, than that forecast by the IEA, combined with the assumption that the non-OPEC supply growth continues and OPEC demand is the difference between the two. Just why is OPEC playing down the potential demand? Are they "holding us to ransom", as is so often proposed? Why won't they increase the production quotas? But for the last several years OPEC has done nothing at all to discipline countries that breach their production ceilings, and current and forecast OPEC crude production exceeds the current ceiling by more than 2mbd. Many observers believe that OPEC is up against a different kind of ceiling - not a quota, but actually producing all the oil their current facilities will allow, and will not be able to increase beyond this whatever happens to prices or demand. If so, the "weapon" of OPEC quotas has no ammunition left. The US Energy Information Administration is, as usual, more optimistic, opining that OPEC has 2-3mbd of spare capacity. However, 1) that was before the 1mbd increase in OPEC production over the last five months, and 2) what remains unused is not the light sweet crude under demand, but heavy sulphurous stuff from Saudi. Even if the EIA is right, the bringing of all OPEC capacity into full flat-out production would only just satisfy demand - and any interruption of any sort by refinery accidents, hurricanes, civil disturbance, whatever, will drop total supply back below total demand, and kick the prices up again. Not Peak Oil Note that this is not a Peak Oil argument, but a simple extrapolation from known data for the last and next years: supply is not currently meeting demand, and won't do for the rest of this year. Of course, if the Peak Oilers are right, then this might be a permanent position, but we'll restrict ourselves to the known for the rest of this piece. What does it mean for oil prices? Being a very classical economist for a while, the simple answer is that oil prices will continue to rise until they have suppressed demand back to match supply. Taking the various forecasts we've already referenced, demand is forecast to grow by 1.8% in 2008 (year-on-year growth from 86mbd to 87.6mbd), and this is from a forecast world economic growth of around 4.5%. If supply is short by 1mbd, then the oil demand increase must be choked off to 0.7% (2008 average 86.6mbd) - less than 40% of the forecast increase. The original forecasts imply an increase in energy intensity of around 2.6% - ie, the amount of GDP we get from a barrel of oil is forecast to grow by that proportion. This is higher than the historic average, but consistent with a world in which fairly major efforts are being put into energy efficiency and non-fossil-fuel energy sources. The implied supply-constrained world GDP growth is thus around 3.3% ceteris a lot of paribus. How high would the price have to go to reduce world GDP growth by 1.2%? Big question that really needs a month or two of simulation runs on a high-grade economic model, but let's have a SWAG (sheer wild-assed guess) at it. We'll start by reference to one of those CNNmoney articles we quoted earlier.
So, extracting the meat from the fluff, it suggests that a $20 price increase takes $100billion out of US consumer spending on other stuff. The US total GDP is around $14trillion, so if we need to take it down by 1.2% we need to take out $168billion, which, allowing for multiplier effects on both the increase in spending on gasoline and the decrease in spending on other stuff, would be achieved by an oil price increase of somewhere in the $20 to $40 range, starting from the Dec '07 baseline of $100. A $20 to $40 increase in the oil price might depress the US economy by the required amount, but would it be enough for the whole world? Well, not if the US dollar continues to depreciate, as that depreciation will mitigate the demand suppression impact of the increased price on the rest of the world's economies - to the extent that the dollar depreciates, the price increase in USD has to go higher to compensate. The trade-weighted USD depreciation over the last six months (the period over which the oil price has risen $20) is 4% - so if that trend continues, we need to up the oil price by another 4-8% to get our 1.2% decrease in world GDP. Voila, our SWAG for the average oil price in 2008 is between $125 and $150 - which at the low end is consistent with (though a little above) our pure short-term trend forecast for $120 in June and $145 at year end, and at the high end suggests a potential further acceleration in the price beyond even the current level - an average of $150 for the year would bring us near the $200 barrel by the year end, but that would almost certainly be much more damaging to world GDP growth than a mere 1.2% shortfall. Price predictions, and petrol pump prices So, I predict, with caveats all over, that the headline oil price will reach US$145 a barrel or more by the end of the year. While I'm at it, I predict that the Aussie dollar will reach (at least) parity with the US dollar over that same period. What will this mean for petrol pump prices? After taking out 38¢ per litre in excise duty, and 10% GST (and assuming that the forthcoming budget doesn't change these), today's price (top of weekly cycle) of 146¢ per litre is pretty close to $1 per litre for the actual stuff. Since the $110 barrel hasn't kicked in yet, we can make a handy parallel from the $100 barrel to the $1 + tax litre. My forecast $145 barrel (at A$1=US$1) is thus $1.35 plus tax or $1.87 per litre at year end. If the current oil price continues to go up $1 a day (NYMEX peak overnight was $111), then we might hit the $120 barrel and $1.65 litre a lot sooner. Enjoy.
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Laura Bush calls for a global response to world food crisis
Has Laura thought that the use of arable land to grow ethanol may also threaten their families and neighbors?
Always be careful what you wish for
Why don't they take wheelchairs away from cripples, and they might walk again? Necessity being the mother of all invention – it's about as ridiculous an argument. The world is simply not in a position to move away from traditional fuels overnight. Sure, it could be forced; however, people must accept the consequences, which won't be nice. Think extreme poverty for large numbers of people, along with social anarchy.
A good tax has never made a good business, and a bad tax has destroyed many a good business. I still find it amazing that people (after hundreds of years of evidence) find it hard to get their head around such a simple matter.
If we falsely create an industry it'll fail. It'll ultimately fail because it was unable to pass the basic test of competition. For all the money wasted in such an enterprise, something, much more worthy, will miss out. That could include: health, education, technology, future business etc. It always has ended, and it always will end, in tears.
The problem with hysteria is the unintended consequences it creates. Allowed to run out of control, all manner of kooky things begin to seem normal. Got a population problem, no problem, refuse health services to any person over fifty. That'll cut life expectancy and the world population in no time at all (actually, the most logical thing for a population in survival mode is to rid itself of the aged and infirmed). See how crazy things can get?
Unfortunately (for them), John Pratt, some of our greatest social planners have had the knack of finding themselves on the wrong side of their original plan. Some people might even call that universal justice.
Indigenous alternative fuels
Australia relies on petroleum based fuels for most of its transportation requirements. The implications of this reliance have been brought into the spotlight through rising prices. Oil reserves are limited and diminishing. Petroleum products produce highly polluting emissions, even before they enter the vehicle's engine. They have a heavy impact on the environment and public health. Fluctuating and rapidly rising prices create uncertainty and contribute to inflation. Australia relies heavily on overseas supply and, increasingly, on overseas refining. Reliance on Middle East supplies threatens our energy security. The only way that Australia can protect its economy and national interest from the inevitable dangers we face through continued reliance on petroleum based products is to embrace indigenous alternative fuels.
Australia has an abundance of natural gas. See Radio National's Background Briefing.
What is the sense of exporting our natural gas while we import petroleum based products? Instead of Labor and Liberal politicians fighting over a few cents on the price of petrol, why don't they make some hard decisions toward moving us into alternative fuels? Increase the price of petrol and use the money to move our vehicles to natural gas.
You betcha it's a bubble
John Pratt: "A lot of analysts see this simply as a supply outstripping demand - it is in fact peak oil."
Every bubble eventually bursts, John Pratt - this bubble will be no different. For many older traders (I'm not old enough) this year has a very curious 1980 feel about it. Seriously, do some of your own research on the period. The resulting commodity recession lasted well on a decade. I've learnt to be very afraid of the words: Yes, but this time will be different. I remember hearing them buying commodity stocks when people all around were buying "dog hospital.com" etc. Back then, gold was "over, man".
My opinion is the bubble has been in the making for near a decade. It began with the bailing out of the dot con boom (loose monetary policy). It was pushed along by bailing out the real estate industry (loose monetary policy). It was pushed further by bailing out the CDO industry (loose monetary policy). It will end with no more Wall Street bail outs (tight monetary policy). There just aint no bailing out commodity booms.
It's time bubbles Bernanke started acting like a person in the real world, and not some kind of CNBC educated idiot. It's about time this clown made inflation priority number one (I doubt he even understands inflation), and started taking steps (making it known in no uncertain terms) the dollar will be defended. He does this - he kills rampant speculation in one king hit. It's about time the whole lot of this whole dog and pony show get their heads out of their asses, and into a place that is at least pretends to be Central Bankers!
Demand will drop sharply this year. If bubbles continues on his crazy path the price may not.
The dollar isn't in "free fall"; that's a simplistic reading of the situation. The current plight of the dollar can be corrected. It merely takes understanding and conviction.
A recession (and nobody likes a recession) is a needed correction. The recession the USA will go through will be a lot worse than it needed be. Bubbles and his predecessor should've allowed mal investments to have been corrected a long time ago. His overly thoughtfulness toward the Street is going to cause many around the world more pain than needed be. I assure you the rest of the world won't be escaping his mistakes.
None of these places exists on a sphere outside economic reality. You'll also find they are all suffering inflation (understated in the case of China). They are all affected equally by higher oil prices (in the case of the Gulf this transfers onto other products such as food). China is also using subsidies to keep prices artificially low (which will come back to hurt them).
The belief that China can use internal demand is a false belief. China has grown in leaps and bounds; however, many there haven't (at least half a billion in fact). The belief that the rest of the world will wear possibly a great deal of pain to appease China is ludicrous. Even if governments wanted this, it'll be political suicide (watch this become a massive political issue in the coming election). Of course, economically it isn't possible for China or India to continue on the current growth path without the rest of the world (especially the USA).
Bernanke either accepts the very real possibility of terrible stagflation or he doesn't. He either starts taking real action now or he doesn't. If this is beyond him he should be moved for somebody that will. Personally, I believe, he should never have been there in the first place.
So whose money is in the warmongering oil bubble futures?
Hi Scott, it seems some of what is happening is neither driven nor controlled, but very blessed by the oil company groups. Our friend who stayed recently, in charge ofWestern Europe for an Ivy League oil company, was quite candid about that.
Then again, if it is the hedge funds, and if the pension schemes also buy into that gambling and then we actually get peace in the ME andIsrael doesn't bomb Iran , well ... think of the gawdalmity crash then.
Bit scary when world economic stability relies upon a country obliterating another with its nukes. The oil is far enough away from the gov centre. How long can the "upping of ante" straws piling up continue without the camel’s back breaking? When the ship of the desert sinks we may find some believed their own rhetoric.
So do the hedge funds crash or do we go to war over money, oil hegemony andIsrael ?
Neither would be the first time. Trumpets away.
How do people live in that region and not have ulcers? I have already declined four invites as I don't like radon in my soup and fried gametes for the kids. Their godparents just had six months in one of the targeted countries. How jolly annoying not to be able to visit , particularly as I have always wanted to go after studying its history. They had nerves of steel but said they were so so so glad to be back. Another friend is off toOman , where the aluminium industry that NSW thinks it is building power plants for is now setting up with cheap labour and unlimited gas energy. Looks like another industry, like the steel to Vietnam , is about to disappear. The whole region there has more for it than China , as it has cheap labour AND unlimited energy, if the stability could be sorted out . The Haifa pipeline that Saudi wants requires the protection from Hezbollah hence that group’s interference too via Bandar, but peace and cooperation would work too. So much potential if willing to share the wealth and land.
I just wish the war mongers on both sides had all their children in the front line – that is what it takes sometimes to get peace. It is often the returned military than help the people learn the realities of war. And that spoils the spoils.
So much for the $12 a barrel of Murdoch vaunting from his pro-war media whore outlets. Perhaps that, or the preIraq war price of about USD28 is the proper price unless people are saying there has been a 600% increase in demand since then.
As it is a speculative oil price futures bubble that may involve many people's money, perhaps we should find out exactly whose money is invested in this roll of the dice so that we can be more aware of whose interests are served by those increasing and stoking the tensions. And what would happen to theUS economy if that bubble did burst and peace and industry settled down in the region and Israel decided their borders and such were agreed by all and peace reigns ... yes, perhaps there are some who benefit from such tensions and perhaps it would be wise to know who is exposed thus financially. Wars have been waged for such.
Any data out there? I do hope JP Morgan has not been using our future fund, eh?
AndRussia wins no matter which way it goes. Anyone notice that?
Cheers
A perfect storm not a bubble.
David and Paul, I don't think this is a bubble. A lot of analysts see this simply as a supply outstripping demand - it is in fact peak oil. The world's oil producers cannot keep up with demand. We are going to have to get used to high oil prices. With millions buying their first car in China and India, where is all the extra oil going to come from? The US dollar is in free fall, unemployment is rising, the US is moving into recession. US demand may fall but still demand will grow.
We have to get used to the rise of China, India, Russia and the Middle East.
US demand for oil may fall but so will the US dollar. Nothing will stop the demand for oil in China and India.
what will stop demand for oil in China?
John: "Nothing will stop the demand for oil in China and India."
Well, clearly there is a price which is high enough to do that. First there is a price that will stop growth in the markets that China supplies goods to, and that will slow demand in China. In the long run, China can only buy oil with hard currency earned from exports, but their reserves mean that's a long way off. And a lot of the growth in China comes from internal demand, so that doesn't rely on the rest of the world growing - but still, there is a price for oil that will depress it ... and if the Chinese demand drives the world price high enough, the export-led growth will stop there, too.
And then the riots in India and China will leave the demonstrations of this week in the shade.
There's always an alternative
Necessity has ever been mother to invention. It won't be long before we see cars motoring along with a wood-fired gas producer in the back seat, or where the back seat used to be. My father had one in the '30s depression.
The oil cartel which has just, for the nth time, jacked up its prices for a holiday period, refuses to sell Australian condensed natural gas (CNG) at its tied house service stations. Unsurprisingly, thrifty inventors are finding ways round them, by making their own CNG at home from mains natural gas. The transcript of last night's 7:30 Report is not up yet on the ABC website. But see this, and that.
Where there's a will there's a way.
Two heads are better than one.
I could go on....
the price of wood
Ian: "It won't be long before we see cars motoring along with a wood-fired gas producer"
... and soon after that the price of wood will double or treble - and soon after that some entrepreneur will cut down the remaining trees overnight ...
Shades of Dr Seuss
Well, the Lorax warned us.
In my recent sojourn in the west I fortuitously caught up with an old friend. He spends most of his time overseas, a freelancer to the petro-chemical industry. We were talking about this and I mentioned that the last I had heard, coal could be liquified for $40 a barrel. His immediate response was "thirty two actually".
Draw your own conclusions, Australia has more coal than you can, literally, poke a stick at.
Ultimately it will all end in tears but I've revised my prediction upwards of my original fifty years.
Rarely I Worry, and I Did Say "Rarely"
David Roffey
Well, normally I'd agree, however, the events of the last two days have got me wondering. A lot depends now on Dr Bubbles and his money printing motley crew (forget the hawk next week, this guy will want be talking like a f###### wedge tail eagle). Personally, I think any vestage of confidence in him has been blown to pieces (the end for him is certainly near). The guy can claim a lot things, not being warned, is not one of them.
I still stick by my end of year predictions (could even go lower). Unfortunately it won't happen for the "right" reasons. Spikes such as this are good if you make money (everybody loves that, and plenty was to be had), though, over the long-term they're not good for anybody! It's not the spike that's the worry for me; it's the conviction of the spike.
So you've read fooled by randomness? Not a bad book. A few things I totally disagree with, though, I think he sums up the general crux of life, and market pretty well. It's certainly worth a read.
May As Well Play Monopoly
There really isn't much point - my opinion hasn't changed. It's a monetary problem; it's always been a monetary problem. "Dr Bubbles" inherited it (and has done SWFA to change it). This isn't peak oil (not to say it doesn't exist), markets simply don't move that fast, and brutally, over something known about.
The EU guy (French of course) makes a couple of ill thought out remarks (actually hes just sealed the deal on interest rates); lets say he kicked in the door, well, everybody stampeded and burnt down the entire barn.
The problem for Dr Bubbles is the conviction the market did it with. The only thing I can take from that is a complete, and utter lack of confidence in the Fed. Dr Bubbles has had a million chances (time for the bs now officially at an end). He either acts in the interest of everybody (the world) or he moves aside, or is moved aside, for somebody who will. America is going into a recession (even if Dr Bubbles refuses to look at it, and people are going to be hurt), that's now beyond question, how deep and severe is now in Dr Bubbles hands - and with captain Bubbles at the helm - I'm more than a little worried.
The problem with a commodity boom is the same as any other boom - when it deflates, it deflates - just how far depends on the size of the bubble (which is a whole other set of problems). Either the USA wants commodities priced in dollars (in which case it should start acting responsibly) or it doesn't. Personally, I think Dr Bubbles has lost the confidence of the market (been in this situation for a while, only now it's for all to see), and I don't see any coming back from that.
I'm loath to say it, but, maybe it's time for a Central Bank sit down. The current lot just cannot be trusted any longer (Dr Bubbles, and crew). Out with the old crew and in with the new is sadly the only answer the market will hear at this stage.
I've seen booms and busts, and I sincerly believe this is the most critical time, I've personally witnessed.
Take A Photo Of This One
My God!
In all my life I've never witnessed anything like the last two days in crude. Forget my predictions, this shit has got really serious. Spikes are one thing, however, if this is not out of control it's on the borderline.
President Bush must do one thing he has yet to do - act like a President. I would call on him now to dismiss "bubbles" Bernanke - a liability that cannot no longer be justified. If this thing is not nip in the bud, and soon, we're all headed into an uncertain future (and I do mean everybody).
Sadly, it should've never got to this.
Richard; Paul, this is your bag. A threadstarter on the market collapse? Please?
Rational spikes
Well, Paul, I certainly never said I though the market was rational, nor am I going to be Fooled by Randomness. This is a spike, and I'm pretty sure it will fall back again into the mid-$120s next week (and will bet on the Dow rebounding, too ...)
However, as I said at the end of the last trading month, I do think the fundamentals underpin a much higher price than $100. Last night's price doesn't mean much, because it doesn't get refined into real tankers of stuff for another couple of weeks. But if I'm right about the underlying fundamentals, then at the end of trading of the July contract on 20 June the settlement price will again be somewhere in the $120-130 range, and will have probably gone up on the last day, as the speculators exit and the people who really want oil in July come in.
However, the upside possibility is still high. If you accept my (not unique) view in the original article from February on what the supply and demand fundamentals for the rest of the year are, then I would expect an efficient futures market (hah!) to begin to get toward the $145+ level earlier. Note that I'd put that as being compatible with there still being world GDP growth. If the world goes ex-growth for a long period, then the price will indeed fall back sharply, but I don't think anyone will be happy.
Nothing like putting your .... on the line
Personally, I think that by year's end, oil will have moved in the opposite direction. That's not a criticism of the article (which is well researched), simply an opinion.
For me the three deadly sins of the commodity trading are:
1. The belief markets can be controlled (intentionally moved in a certain direction):
Whilst it may not be impossible for certain funds to do this in the very short term, it's impossible over the long term.
2. Markets are rational:
They're not, and never will be. Markets are made up of competing interests all with a different idea about "true value". This is something the peak oil people often fail to understand. Fact is a hell of lot of the market is random.
3. Underestimation of what the market has already factored in:
Any person that has traded for even a short period of time will find this out - often to their peril.
Okay, my opinion is that by year's end oil will be trading at around the $95-$105 mark. I also find it highly unlikely the Aus dollar will hit parity (not saying the worst for the USD is over; again go back to what is "already" factored in).
The continuing slowing world economy (believe it or not the Chinese market for example is off around 50% since last October) will begin to eat into record commodity prices - it's not if, it's when.
None of the above is to say oil hasn't got one or two more spikes left in it. It's to say the medium term view for me is downward. On any kind of retracement, key levels of support would be hit leading I believe to a revision on many forecasts, and sentiment. Although this only a very basic outline, sell can be my only action.
Naturally, I could well be totally wrong. They are called futures, and not presents!
On a clear winner
Ian MacDougall: "Well put, though probably not news to many readers of this site. Calling on governments to lower petrol prices must rank with searching for Noah's Ark or the Philosopher's Stone, as among the most futile of human activities."
The most a person can be master of is his/her own domain. Whilst the government doesn't have the ability to lower world oil prices, it does have the ability to lower taxes. The nonsense that a slight lowering of tax on oil is worthless is a baseless claim (it'll result in much bigger savings than most seem aware). That tax (oil) is passed on to all products (with a gasoline content in final pricing), and if a consumption tax comes into play, a product is taxed again. It's a classic tax on a tax which pushes prices, and of course in the present situation, inflation.
Mr Rudd came into office making clear intentions to improve "cost of living pressures". There is not one action, thus far taken, that does this. In fact some actions will make it much more difficult for many people. If Mr Rudd was serious about any of his promises he wouldn't have cut subsidy options for a large number of people.
Mr Nelson is right to ask for tax changes. Asking for tax changes gives a clearly stated intention, and also positions his political party to say no to tax increases - such as the disastrous carbon tax. If such taxes are ripping apart the English Labour Party; why wouldn't the exact same thing occur in Australia?
It's not a fluke that North America enjoys much lower prices than Europe.
New Australian Peak Oil Documentary
Folks, you might be interested to see this new documentary "Australia Pumping Empty". DVDs will soon be available via the Aquila Productions website.
Ed - if the embedding doesnt work the youtube link is here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO4CzgbFRio
Essential reading for B Nelson
Though to my knowledge he is not yet a Webdiarist (hence I don't put his name into bold type) Brendan Nelson would do well to read Johann Hari on the subject of the growing political unrest over liquid fuel prices:
Well put, though probably not news to many readers of this site. Calling on governments to lower petrol prices must rank with searching for Noah's Ark or the Philosopher's Stone, as among the most futile of human activities.
Still, people keep doing it. Trouble for Brendan is that they are only likely to vote for him once on that issue.
IEA May Market Overview: Do We Need More Oil?
The IEA has now online-released its 15 May Oil Market Report. It makes interesting reading, particularly the chapter with the title above, which appears to bear out a lot of of my reasoning (and doesn't support the more optimistic Lehman analysis released yesterday). So interesting in fact that I'm including the whole chapter - then still recommend that you look at the detail of the full report:
High petrol price forces motorists to switch to public transport
The high price of fuel is causing motorists to switch to public transport. This is just what is needed to reduce our GHG emissions. But as the price continues to rise can our public transport systems cope? Governments are spending billions on roads when the money would be better spent on public transport.
Governments have known about peak oil and climate change for years and have done next to nothing. The public transport system in most Australian cities is underfunded and will not be able to cope with the increasing numbers as we move out of our cars and back to public transport.
All so short-sighted
John, if the decline in petrol sales is due to price rise, (and that has been queried), then I would think that decline is likely to continue as more and more people try save on petrol in a tight family budget. I have no problem with that as clearly a decline in fuel consumption has its advantages.
But as you say the urban pubic transport system is under real pressure and is not coping too well. But so too is the country system.
Being one who would rather pay a few dollars to go by rail than drive a car I have been dismayed over the past few years as the country rail passenger network went into rapid decline and services were discontinued. Tracks and bridges on even the main southern line are so old and rundown that trains rarely run on time anymore as they reduce to a crawl over the worst spots. Often services terminate well before the desired destination and buses are used to carry the passengers the rest of the way.
Even main and well used services such as that between Sydney and Dubbo, a major inland centre of over 30 000 people, was destined for closure. Only public outcry led to its retention. Minor branch lines are now all overgrown with weeds and grass and deteriorated beyond repair. This includes many that were once used to transport the state's grain crop, and those remaining lines are now also under threat of closure.
Freight trains that were once so frequent on the main southern line are quite a novelty to see these days, but when one does see them they often have over 100 carriages. That means 100 fewer juggernaut trucks on the road for each such train.
But clearly all the thinking is in terms of road freight as huge distribution hubs are planned close to the main north south highway, the Hume. At the same time the eastern interstate inland freight rail line has been put on the backburner. A large number of trucks ply the inland highway between Adelaide, Melbourne and Brisbane. The Newell is a nightmare to travel on. An inland rail link would make so much more sense.
Given the oil supply situation this dependence on road freighting is all very short-sighted and can only result in never-ending price increases for essential goods. Where it once cost about $25 to truck a beef beast to a meatworks in southern Queensland from around Gilgandra (a distance of around 900 kms), it rose to $70 when the fuel hit $1.20 a litre. God knows what it will be now diesel is above $1.80. That is one of the main reasons we abandonned livestock raising. As usual farmers are being forced to carry much of the cost hike and cannot pass it on.
Milk is another essential item to watch. Sydney's milk is transported long haul since the dairy industry left the coast and tablelands and moved inland to the irrigation belt. Adding the huge fuel cost impost of getting the milk to Sydney onto the skyrocketing costs of production due to drought and lack of irrigation water will mean the price of milk is going to rise significantly - that is, if farmers are going to stay in production. Murray Valley farmers supplying Melbourne are being forced out due to lack of irrigation water and high fodder costs.
All this is hardly going to help the grocery budget, and inflation.
Governments need to start thinking rail and quickly in my opinion, as the pressure on oil supplies is only going to increase. But all the indications are that heads are well and truly in the sand.
SMH confused
Two articles published n the same day, first in the printed paper:
and then at 2pm on the website:
Of course might be explained by the fact that the figures in the morning article come from OPEC, who say there's no supply problem, and not from the IEA, who think there is (supply 87.3mbd - including the increases identified as "unexpected" in the first article - demand 88mbd).
Make a decision today. Be honest: the high petrol price is good
With both the government and opposition trying to reduce the price of petrol by a few cents, do they think the Australian public are fools?
Tell us the truth!
If they were honest they would be preparing us for even higher petrol prices and that a high petrol price is good. The more expensive petrol becomes the more we will try to be reduce our fuel consumption.
If the government wants to save the long suffering motorist help them make the transition to fuel efficient vehicles. Driving a car that runs on 5 litres per 100 km rather than 15 litres per 100 can save the average motorist at least $50 dollars a week.
The government should reduce the taxes on fuel efficient cars and increase the tax on petrol. A carbon tax on petrol is what we need, for the good of the planet.
Price boost from real oil buyers (and T Boone Pickens)
I'm interested by the fact that in both of the last two months there has been a significant price boost on the last day of the contract - last night to settle at $129.07.
The reason this is interesting is that the people who ended up with the contract at the settlement price yesterday actually have to take delivery of the real oil - so these people who added $2 to the price yesterday are not speculators - they're real oil buyers.
Added to that, we've gone back into contango, which is to say that the futures price for later months contracts are even higher than the (now dead) June contract - up to $136.99 for the furthest future traded. This means the traders see the next moves as up not down (perspicacious, eh).
Meanwhile, real (not speculative) oilman T Boone Pickens weighed in on the side of my predictions, saying he expected to see $150 later this year "because supply isn't keeping up with demand". (Of course, as has been discussed elsewhere on this site, Pickens is personally speculating on a 4 gigawatt wind farm).
Update on supply and demand
Official figures for 1Q2008 show demand and supply both at 87.3mbd.
If so, the rise of 25% in the oil price over this period (from $100 to $125 - nice easy math) came without demand actually exceeding supply in total. If so, I might have been too cautious in my predictions for the potential rise over the next few quarters if demand seriously exceeds supply in any quarter. However, it is said that there is a lot of heavy crude slopping about the world in tankers with no takers, so it's possible that there was a serious shortage of light sweet stuff behind the price rise.
Oil at $200 or $40 ?
The price of oil hit record highs again today, analysts are saying the price could be between $40 and $200 within two years. The oil price has been rising steadily since 2001, it is hard to think of a circumstance that would change the trend. The fact is supply cannot keep up with demand.
If we take in China's growing demand for oil it is hard to see the price of oil falling, not to mention India and the rest of the developing world.
I think we should be prepared to pay at least $200 in the next two years and who knows what we will be paying for oil in five years time?
A Slight Correction About Europe
Note: This may read that I'm equating Europe (first world) to the third world (writing of British elections). It should read that if Europe is feeling the effects imagine the effects on the third world.
Green Force Running Out Of Force
Jenny Hume
The restrictive "green taxes" were a major reason for the British Labor Parties recent decimation. It's obvious people talk a lot of turkey about such things; that is, until it comes to paying the piper. One conservative guy on the Guardian blog summed it up very succinctly. He said they (Labor Party) just kept thinking of more, and more taxes (or force). These people (Labor Party) had lost touch with the average citizens reality. The stuff they were proposing was "manna from heaven" for us (Conservative Party).
It should be obvious from the cost of food (amongst many things) that gas prices affect the third world a lot more harshly than the first. Basically what you are seeing is a decline in the US dollar reflected in the oil price. This in turn is making US industry a lot more competitive, along with pushing up commodity prices across the board.
The current situation has put the EU in a very strange position. A position were they're basically calling for something that is doing them the most damage. The "green taxes" are helping along inflation which they're finding hard to deal with because to do so is helping US industries at the expense of their own. It's becoming clear (if the UK results are anything to go by); this particular situation (the world's Mr environment nice guy) is fast running out of steam.
It's also very interesting watching the Clinton attack on China. Strangely at a time free trade is beginning to favor many up and coming nations - United States politicians are hinting at a few restrictions. Nothing like changing the rules to suit a certain result I suppose. America, strangely enough once decimated UK industry during the Victorian era through restrictive trade measures. He who owns the gold makes the rules as they say. Australia will come to celebrate the day that it did sign the free trade agreement with the USA - and that you can take to a AAA bank.
Three Predictions:
1. The so called "food crisis" will be used as an excuse to keep the third world out of agricultural markets in the first (no surprises there).
2. The USA will move very much toward a "favored trade status" of nations. The days of Bob Zollick will become equivalent to the dinosaur's.
3. The up coming "climate disaster", will like actual global warming, start to become a lot cooler, in political circles. In Australia this will become apparent the day a "green tax" is not put on gasoline.
The game of world economic power has unfortunately never really been fair. Unfortunately I don't ever see this changing in my lifetime.
Oil passes $120
BBC report
NYMEX
So, solidly above $120 by June, I'd guess, keeping my SWAG holding up well.
A lot of pain ahead
The least we could do in Sydney is as in London - get the cars out of the central city. It is time to legislate as many cars off the city streets as possible. People need to be forced to make the changes that are going to be so obviously needed in terms of protecting the environment and conserving oil reserves. The one person, one car to work policy has to change.
The price of oil is already doing considerable economic damage all over the world. The Government is worried about inflation, but how can we rein in inflation? As families are being squeezed by interest rate hikes they are forced to cut down on discretionary spending, but the essentials are all inflating at well above the average rate due to the increasing price of oil.
As for any argument that one category of items in the basket is not the true indicator of inflation - well, bananas to that.
Household expenditure is going to continue to rise no matter what the housewife does. It is now out of her or his hands to a large extent.
A lot of pain ahead I think for a lot of people.
Maybe at least $2.50 a litre by xmas
Diesel is now $1.80 in some rural areas of Tas and nowhere in Hobart or surrounds can you buy it for less than $1.74. I bought some fuel for my chainsaw yesterday and got it for $1.33lt of ethanol unleaded blend at united, up the road closer to and in Hobart it was $1.54 for unleaded.
I read where the Queensland government is going to buy more than 100 new buses for Brisbane, but I bet not one will be run on alternatives like electricity or biodiesel. I read yesterday that gas pollutes as badly as petrol, as the process needed to freeze it for storage and transport is a heavy energy user. Yet they give more than $4 billion dollars a year in subsidies to the fossil fuel industries and virtually nothing to alternatives. Why is it natural gas prices continue to rise when their production costs and availability hasn't changed much except for CPI rises? It may be our decline will be more rapid than anyone expects or hoped, yet it seems our leaders are doing the opposite to what reality requires and the world's multinational conglomerates are only interested in profit, not sustainability.
Oil might reach $200 by 2012.
This report was in this morning's New York Times.
If you think today's fuel price of about $1.50 a litre is expensive I hope you are prepared for $3 a litre or $4 maybe $5 a litre if we price in a carbon tax.
The international Energy Agency says an investment of $5.4 trillion is needed to increase global output. Surely this money would be better invested in alternative energy sources.
If you think the oil situation is bad, worse is to come
Jad Mouawad in The Age today on the oil situation:
Jad then runs through the numbers. The human population on this planet up 50% by 2050; the number of cars and trucks on roads around the world (and consuming fossil fuels) doubling by 2040; the number of passenger planes zooming around the planet (and consuming fossil fuels) doubling by 2030.
Two options then: the smart one and the stupid one. The smart one is to find ways to reduce consumption of fossil fuels; the stupid one is to keep feeding the addiction to fossil fuels.
$200 a barrel by xmas
“The rises were supported by fears of further attacks on pipelines in Nigeria and oil cartel Opec's refusal to raise quotas to curb rising prices.
Comments that it will raise production in 2012 failed to dampen sentiment. “
Could be they won't raise quotas because they can't? We passed peak oil in 2005 and you can't get more oil out of emptying wells. Sure there is lots of oil locked up in shale and coal, but the method for extracting and converting this into fossil fuels is not only extremely expensive, but highly polluting. We will probably see oil at $200 a barrel within 12 months, which will destroy most of the world's economies that rely solely upon oil products for their economic survival as Australia and other major economic clones do.
$119.90
Smile when you fill your tank.
Oil prices continue on their way up to $150 or more. It makes a few cents the ACCC says we may save look a little sick. We should come to terms that oil is going to go up and up. We will also need to add more to the price when we price in a carbon tax. Eventually we will all learn to use energy more wisely and we will drive more efficient vehicles. I have recently sold my Ford Fairmont and bought a Honda Jazz. My consumption has gone down from 15L/100km to 6L/100km more than halving my fuel bill. I smile now when I fill up.
Fill up your tank
John Pratt, why don't you do what I do? Every Tuesday I put $50 worth of petrol in my car. If the price goes up it does not worry me as I just put in $50 every time. So it is costing me $50 per week.
Time For Green Celebration?
Since we're on a predicting thread:
And indeed he expects to turn a big buck (from the world's largest wind farm). He says (as I've written on numerous occasions) as the price of oil rises, so will the competition from alternatives. Pickens (if successful) will prove that indeed the free market does have the answer - and a very profitable answer at that - an answer that will indeed be a major bonus for American freedom, and capitalism.
My prediction: So called green types won't jump aboard this project. Exactly because it is "free market capitalism" - and of course most of the current bunk, and hysteria, isn't about peak energy etc at all. It's about anti Americanism that has its real roots in anti capitalism.
Lets all just wait and see how wrong I am, shall we?
We'll see then
How wrong you are, Paul.
If commercial projects like T. Boone Pickens' planned $10bn clean energy project has the effect of reducing US carbon emission levels, then "green types" worldwide will be happy ... and many will be making money, which they'll be able to reinvest in further profitabe "sustainable living" ideas.
You see, your basic assumption is plain wrong. You operate from the assumption that "It's about anti Americanism that has its real roots in anti capitalism." Yet the reality is that a great many million "green types" around the globe are comfortable with capitalism, and millions are also American.
Economic renewables
I've been saying for some time that the $100 barrel is the magic bullet for a number of renewables: Picken's windfarm is only one of many projects that become economic compared to fossil-fuel alternatives at current oil prices, even without pricing the carbon externalities into fossil-fuels. Once the cost of carbon begins to be priced in as well, then wind, wave, solar and geothermal become projects that don't have to be subsidised for the public good, but will earn a reasonable return in their own right.
Three years ago we rejected a plot to put 20 PV solar panels on our roof, because it was going to cost $35,000, save $1,000 a year off our fuel bills, and last ten years before needing replacing. This year's equivalent will cost $24,000, save $1500 off our annual fuel bills and be guaranteed for 25 years. That has a positive real rate of return even if you don't assume fuel prices will rise by more than inflation, which they surely will.
So, I'm green (but not Green), and I think that the oil price is just great, my predictions for it an even better idea, and the growing evidence that renewables are attracting real funding excellent news.
Oops, $117
Another $1.83 added overnight. Looking like my prediction of $120 by June is going to be overshot (though the market usually stops for a breather after hitting the next decade, so it may still be in the low $120s in June ...)
If maintained, expect metro ULP price to cross $1.60/l the week after next ... Expect Brendan Nelson to say that this proves that FuelWatch doesn't work, even though it hasn't started yet.
If the price falls back to (say) $114, expect big headlines saying "Oil price falls", so that people can feel bad about the oil companies and the $1.50/l that will be becoming cemented in. And expect Eliot to be claiming that the fall proves I'm just scaremongering.
Con job of the highest order
In Tasmania, diesel in our area is between $1.66 and $1.75. leaded is $1.43 to $1.54. There's a couple of interesting things to this subject, I believe Australia only gets $6-$10 royalties for a barrel of oil from oil companies. The price of production has not risen in many years, yet oil companies sell the oil to their Australian subsidiary for more than $100 in Singapore, add their transport and refining costs and sell it to the public for massive profits. Yet the oil never leaves the country and is piped directly ashore for refining at the same cost as 25 years ago, just like natural gas. But with gas, there are no refining significant costs, just piping drying and bottling. Yet the prices are rising just as fast if not faster than the rate of petrol.
Then we have the weird anomaly of diesel being so much more expensive than petrol in Aus, yet it’s much cheaper overseas and has refining costs of less than half petrol. Before the Australian lab/lib coalition government introduced an excise rebate of 38 cents a litre for off road and marine engines, and half for road transport, the price of diesel was more than 15 cents cheaper than petrol. Now, it's more than 20 cents dearer and the farmers and fishermen as well as people with remote power requirements have lost their rebate and are paying even more.
So it's really just a con job and grab for huge profits as peak oil passed three years ago and we are now on a rapid road down regarding oil fuels. Yet not one thing is being done to change our approach, just more roads, more subsidies for oil companies, and not one real dollar for alternative or new non polluting forms of transport. I wonder how long it will be before the majority of people actually wake up to the fact that we are being conned into economic slavery, with the only ones being able to have private transport being the elite and security forces, ending up as another Zimbabwe or Burma. Still we should say nothing and just bow down to the superior stupidity of the ruling elite, as they are always right.
Basically this is who is in control of our oil and gas, not us but a multinational conglomerate. They don't appear to be even listed on the ASX and don't mention it at all, so the profits from our oil, go overseas. Truly a great business plan, if your interests are with ACOR and other multinationals as our politicians are.
Diesel reaches $2.08 ULP $2.05
David, I think you may have been a little on the conservative side. People are already paying over $2 a litre.
Driving around Cairns this morning I saw diesel prices of $1.58 and ULP at $1.48. Spare a thought for the people in the NT who are already paying over $2 a litre. I suspect we will some sort of carbon tax shortly which will take us up towards the $3 mark.
$2.27 a litre
No news to me, John, having been charged $2.27 a litre by Hertz at Tullamarine for having returned a Yaris unfulfilled.
On the other hand, these kind of one-offs (Hertz and a remote NT station) aren't what I was talking about, really. I can't see why anyone is surprised that we've gone beyond $1.50 in the cities while WTILC is trading at $115. If it stays there, then around $1.58 would be likely, at least on Thursdays.
I'm also irritated by the idiocy of most discussion on the Fuelwatch scheme. It clearly has no possibility of having any downward impact on prices of itself - the point is to be able to let you know where the cheapest fuel is, on those days like this Wednesday when there was a 14¢ difference between the dearest and the cheapest fuel in an area. Over the long run, if that causes enough customers to be arsed to drive many kms to save around $3 on a tank-full, it might cause them to pitch their prices at the lower end of what they were going to charge anyway, but that's about it.
Fuel prices
John Pratt, what are you worried about? Haven't you heard about Kevin's FuelWatch program? When this kicks in he will be saving you heaps.
Something wrong here
As the $US falls so the value of other currencies rise. What would be more useful as a guide is the price quoted in a trade weighted index. International currency anyone?
Oil price soars to record high above $US110.
David Roffey, your prediction of $145 a barrel seems to be about right. The oil price continues to climb as the US dollar falls. The high cost of energy is not going to help the already struggling global economy.
Biofuel subsidies causing a food crisis.
The high price of oil, drought and subsidies to bio fuels are causing a tripling of the price of the world's basic food supplies. A moral dilemma for the US.
Also, they don't wear lederhosen?
And my point is these are mere administrative technicalities that don't alter the fact if you aggregate the economic activity carried out by NAFTA member states it out-produces the EU. And is way ahead of China.
What next? NAFTA "doesn't count" because mostly they speak only Spanish and English and don't wear lederhosen?
Not "Mere Technicalities"
Eliot: "...my point is these are mere administrative technicalities that don't alter the fact if you aggregate the economic activity carried out by NAFTA member states it out-produces the EU."
No one is arguing with the fact, in aggregate, the economic activity of NAFTA states exceeds the EU. What is disputed is whether comparing the combined GDP of the NAFTA states or the EU to individual states or the eurozone is valid. I continue to maintain it is not.
The reason NAFTA is not comparable with the eurozone has nothing to do with the language or the preferred clothing of the locals. It has everything to do with the substantial structural and functional differences between the two institutions.
The difference between NAFTA and the eurozone is not simply a matter of "mere administrative technicalities". Indeed, there is nothing "mere" about it. The eurozone's monetary policy is not decided by each of the 15 states individually but by the European Central Bank. It is an independent institution with the "exclusive right to set interest rates" in the eurozone. This is no small task and no small surrender of sovereignty by the eurozone states - it is no 'mere administrative technicality'.