Webdiary - Founded and Inspired by Margo Kingston

Paul Walter, you say your heavy heart goes out to the moderators apparently because I am guilty as charged in the Webdiary kangaroo court of "direct abuse" by the monkey judge. I simply described an individual as "pompous and offensive". Given that the freedom to express such a view here is strictly prohibited, it was deleted, leaving you with the impression that I had said something truly horrible that had traumatised a poor editor.

This caused you to leave your comment with a heavy heart. I suspect your heavy heart would be much lighter had you known the facts but of course you were denied them as is standard practice in this place.

This probably doesn't make it either because I think there is also some bizarre rule floating around that you are not allowed to criticise the forum itself. There may be or there may not be. I've always loathed those rules and what they make of people so I don't read them and nor of course do I respect them in anyway. I don't read the rules, rather I infer them by the bizarre behaviour of the moderators over the years. The rules diminish and demean adults in a free society.

So you are not allowed to be "directly abusive" here. Clearly then you can be indirectly abusive. How infantile and ridiculous. The rules have always been an ass. They certainly have long made an ass of those who attempt to apply them. Well, an indirect ass at least. I mean you can demean all sorts of things and make horrific, intolerant hate filled statements, as long as you do it indirectly.

Club for lefties, all of the same ilk. That part is direct and makes it a carbon copy of the ABC.

Now I know all of this is so shocking for all of you with such sensitive, kind hearted leftie ways but I'm sure in the fullness of time, you'll get over it and have a heart as light as a World Youth Day participant (once you've wiped the smile off their faces by directly abusing them for their faith - in an indirect Webdiary way).

David R: no rule on criticising WD, David, it's all that some of our contributors do. But given that some recent debates have got a bit heated, with heavy indirect hints of terminological inexactitude and economy with the truth, we have been getting heavier-handed on the abuse bit, and not really apologetic for that. An old debate, and one we stick with Margo's views on, even if you and others don't like 'em.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24028963-12377,00.html

This priest says with an apparently straight face that we have to enjoy young people and simply forget about the rape of young people.   No wonder we can claim they are out of touch.

One has to laugh at the pots who call kettles black. I've had two such laughs so far.

Happy birthday to our talented bard, beware the choke fate of the Great Man, much better the joke bait to rattling pots.

Had half a dozen pilgrims over for Xmas dinner – couldn’t get a turkey but we had everything else – the kids looked whimsically up and asked if there were to be presents....nope, 6 months to go for that.

I guess if we can have an Easter crucifixion (how very Mel) how much nicer to have a welcoming St Stephen’s feast.

Great success. Lots of fun. Very sweet kids. From rich families, of course.

All the same, instead of three different outfits with logos about mulesing (such cute lambs) and all those colour coordinated tents I would rather have my 200 million spent not on rich kids, no matter how nice, but locally on our hospitals, more and hence happier nicer policemen, better funds for public schools that we all may find is the only education affordable when the big crunch bites, social workers counselling abused kids, and safe sex programs to prevent AIDS here and elsewhere. Religious activities should be paid for by that religion. Not by stooges in government in that religion. Whether it is Anglican, Methodist, Roman Catholic, Irish Catholic, Jewish, Moslem or Hindu or crystal pyramids.

I don’t remember 200 million for the Dalai Lama's visit ... although there were 100 visas if I remember rightly, for 10 grand each. if charged the usual donation ... or the nice contracts and big government bucks going to Hillsong for their "programs" that never happened ... or choosing for GG an Anglican ponce who has no idea about what is appropriate behaviour for a priest is etc...And for those who want to dig a bit about the WW2 stuff, it is interesting that the Rabbi of Rome converted to Catholicism just after WW2 as he was so inspired, apparently, by the pontiff's efforts ... hmmm ...

Anyway, the boys are here for the girls and visa versa. Sex sells, even if it religious revival. But at least it will be with nice (rich) catholic boys. Quite romantic really.

Now I can get my T-shirts out again. :)

You were not very sickened over the Bakhtiyari family being illegally deported on false documents and dumped to sleep in the snow.

Now here is the thing with silly old Gerard and others. We don't have to love the pope, or catholics or anglicans or anyone of the other frocked up god botherers.

Kapeesh?

Hatred, bigotry and intolerance expressed toward the Catholic Church and the United States are the two permissable forms of bigotry. For some time it has been seen as inappropriate to make racially discriminatory comments or such sweeping damnations of other religions. It is always though open season on Americans and Catholics. More often than not though, it says a lot more about the hater than the hated.

Gerard Henderson makes some interesting comments today.

For the joyful crowds gathered in their tens of thousands in Sydney this week though, sink holes like this one and the people who inhabit them are largely irrelevant. Completely irrelevant in fact. Thank God for that.

It never takes me long to remember why I read and comment so little in this forum. The vile left views expressed on a wide range of subjects are sickening. Literally sickening.

Richard:  As much as you hate editing, David, I've removed what was directly abusive of other Webdiarists, according to the guidelines we work under.

Jenny you are a goose and a half. I have nothing against anyone who wants to believe in an old book and a bunch of old fossils so long as they don't foist it on me.

I sort of agree with Marilyn about the two old fossils, Jenny Hume, and I abhor their ultra conservative views, especially with George Pell saying today "populate or perish"! For crying out loud, why can't we just take more refugees if population in this country is a problem.

But I've got nothing against the Pilgrims attending the event and why on earth Morris Minor thought he needed new laws to prohibit people from "annoying" them is a mystery. All the groups I've come across so far seem a happy bunch and I can't possibly conceive that any Sydneysider would be anything other than courteous to these visitors.

Demonstrating maybe, as is their democratic right, and waving a few placards but as committed Christians I reckon Iemma insults them as being unable to take any criticism of their faith (and insults us at the same time). I doubt they would care in the slightest.

When have the people of Sydney ever been anything other than welcoming to visitors?

Happy Birthday, Dr Duncan.

In sports events and the scouts and other large events there is something being done. What on earth are all these young catholics doing here? To make it a pilgrimage the church had to import two old fossils, one long dead and the other one already 81 years old, just to make it sort of legitimate.

What will be the end result? Nothing at all. Those who came to see the pope could have seen him on TV and saved their money.

While I'm begging your forgiveness for maligning your Scouts I was so disappointed as I really wanted to go off camping with the boys!!

Despite the odd behaviour of Baden Powell or whatever his real motives were (and there are dozens of men who were close to him as young boys who always spoke with great affection about him when they were old), it's obvious that the Scouts have been a great institution over the years and that those giant Jamborees bring kids from all over the world together and help sponsor racial harmony.

Of course there is no comparison to the Nazi Youth League which did the opposite - promoting Aryan superiorty and run by hardly great examples of the same, and highly suspect themselves about their motives.

And I never forget - there is a chunk of family members on my mother's side I never got to know as they disappeared during WW2.

"As I wrote earlier to Eliot Ramsey (on another thread): be careful how banal you are."

Condemned and compared with Eliot ?. That truly is damnation !.

Perhaps my folly about the Scouts is coloured by my first and only experience with the Cub Scouts when I was admonished on my first night by the Cub Mistress for not only having the incorrect sox but the fact that they kept falling down. How could a nine year old know about garters?. Terrified by her tone, I never went back again.

I've wondered ever since if it had a lasting effect upon me ( apart from never learning the mysteries of the Scouting movement) . As I very much like domineering woman, it probably did.

reading here of the drums, tambourines, expressions of happiness and joy, generally so missing in our grey cities, I'm a bit inclined now to pay them to come back again, or to become a permanent feature.

(I don't care for the marching bit, though.)

I was sent on a mission today by the Head of the Household (she who is always obeyed) to stock up on the herbal tonic Diet Coke – convinced as she is that the kiddie followers of Rat Singer would gobble up local supplies.

Indeed, the Surry Hills market stall called Coles was awash with hundreds of extra souls and, by the fresh cheeked look of them, it was clear they were from the tribe, The Pilgrims, who will be descending in hordes to raze to the ground, the small kingdom known as Royal Randwick of The Horses & Tote.

But they were a cheerful looking lot, as was the group of strange robed Asian ladies from the Nunery tribe of the Philippines I came across yesterday, with kindly faces and warm smiles. Why the G3 operative Morris Minor needed to enact a law that we must not "annoy" these folk is a mystery.

As the Pretender to the throne of the Celestial City of Sin, Fats O'Barrell has been suddenly struck dumb (a sin of omission?) about these by-laws, it's obvious he is in full agreement with them (although some say he is fearful of the wrath of the mysterious Hope Us Die sect) – then we humble peasants of the Celestial City can obviously look forward to more laws from evil Kings, should Fats be triumphant over Morris, to remove our hard-won rights and keep us in our place (ie : permanently waiting for the never coming 8.30am Tangara on Hornsby Platform).

Now Rat Singer has announced that he will apologise to those kiddies who suffered during the decades known the Great Rape & Pillage by Singer's feared Priesthood sect – and so he should. But surely Rat Singer must have had knowledge of these dreadful goings-on, as he was once a member of the Nazi Youth league – where young lads gathered together in the pursuit of healthy activities.

The League, of course, was a re-run of the similar organisation, The Scouting Movement invented by the mysterious Lord Baden Powell, author of the manual for priests and scoutmasters, the double entendre titled Scouting For Boys.

Legend has it that, as an officer during the great Boer War, Baden Powell explained to a fellow officer how he wished upon his return the Once Great Britain, a desire to start a movement where he would take groups of young lads out to the woods on long healthy hikes, teach them knot tying tricks , camp overnight, and encourage hearty nude bathing in nearby rivers. His friend replied sensibly: "you could get ten years for that !"

But what will happen if the first conspirator in the global Jewish plot to spread socialism – Jesus Christ of Nazareth, known as Yeshua the Messiah and acknowledged by The Pilgrims and Rat Singer as The incarnate Son of God and the redeemer of the human race – were to return to Earth and walk ,as predicted by the Theosophists clan , through the Harbour Heads of Sin City to the Land of Balmoral?

Surely Yeshua will descend in a wrath upon the money changers at the Perth Mint where a precious coin has been struck with Rat Singer's likeness and other spots where souvenirs of the Gathering of Pilgrims are on sale – such idolatrous items not being in accordance with Yeshua's world plot (and his co-conspirators Marx and Engels) – although personally I'm partial to collecting one of the Rat Singer dolls with the bobble head.

Morris Minor's Royal Guard will most certainly arrest Yeshua, whereby he could replace the hired actor who is to be mock crucified – and, rather than a re-enactment, a genuine crucifixion can take place again at the Winning Post spot at Royal Randwick; thus Rat Singer can be claim Yeshua died to save the soul of Singer's sidekick, Pell of Sydney whose reputation has come under a dark cloud of recent times.

More importantly, my reading of the Laws Of Annoyance of The Pilgrims is not strictly limited to actions upon the street but could include written essays such as A Grim Faerytale and therefore, should not the great Malcolm, Lord of Duncan, along with Yeshua, also be arrested and brought before the court of Downing Centre and Mark Foys and be charged with sedition?

that these young people are like other young people, I expect that a certain attraction of their pilgrimage is largely just to meet other young people.

Worshipping God is easy, and doesn't require, in the Christian religion as far as I understand, travel.

Perhaps my view is perverse: I think of a tendency for "good" young people to become Stalins, even if only Stalins of the library or schoolroom; and "bad," dissolute young to become the St Francis's and Tolstoys. Yeah, simplistic, I know. Don't get me started.

The guy who wasted 27 mil at the casino also donated many millions to charity and kept many an honest whore in expensive perfume. The Lord works in mysterious ways. Ain't it beautiful?

Malcolm B Duncan; yes indeed, you have found David's soft spot as I did some years ago. I made a childish comment about George Pell and poor David took it to heart.

But David, the kind hearted chap he is,  must have got over it for he freely allowed me to visit his cyber premises, raid the bar, steal anything that wasn't tied down, throw up on the floor and walls, say sleazy things to lovely ladies and, worst of all, tell jokes; he was also ever so grateful when I committed cyber suicide.

For some unexplained reason, three days later I found myself alive again.

Can't figure that one out but I'm sure David had something to do with it. Ain't it beautiful?

By Jenny's logic if a certain rich man wastes $27 million in a casino that is a more wasteful exercise than a so-called church of the people that wastes millions and millions every year on events like the dopey pilgrimage to Sydney where they had to bring their own old fossils in an attempt to make Sydney a sainted sight in the world of the Catholics.

I think, Jenny, that waste is waste and the kiddies digging in the garbage dumps of the Philippines don't much care who wastes it.

I'm not tempted to write a song about George W.Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirise George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporise them.

Let's see now, David? The catholic church is a cesspit of child abuse for centuries.    Many supported that lovely chap Hitler and other such lovelies.

They spread their gospel of going forth and multiplying and sit around while people die of starvation in their millions rather than allow the use of contraception because the more catholics there are the less proddies on the planet.

 http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24009937-5007424,00.html

I thought I would share this critque from a most liberal arts man about another scandal. I didn't know the mother had already had photos of nude children banned.

Organised churches are the opiates of the brainless and if all the real estate was sold there would not be a hungry person on the planet if they lived off the proceeds.

Just think about it. An old book is written and interpreted in a bunch of weird and wackie ways, people fantasise that they are chosen to spread the word of that old book based on nothing much more than what appears to be delusional paranoia and they spend their whole lives telling other people who cannot think for themselves and make billions in the process.

May as well preach that Harry Potter is real.

And since when, David Davis, is reporting authentic, evidenced cases of sexual abuse "anti Catholic", anyway?

I would actually expect praise for public broadcasting, unencumbered of the sort of thinking, or more correctly prejudices, represented by Murdoch and co, for taking on sacred cows like the churches, whose followers think they should remain inviolate, even when palpably apprehended in acts of sheer bastardry. No matter how suspect their behaviours, they should remain unchallenged on the slender basis of theirs and their blind followers, self-proffered claims to be something that is ultimately merely unprovable and vainglorious bromides.

Pull off those rose coloured glasses, fellow!

For a light-hearted look at (Roman) Catholicism, readers may find this youtube fairly amusing.

Richard:  It's been in my head all week, Jacob... know most of it by heart!

Well David, it  IS topical stuff. The Pope is due here any time now.

And you certainly must know by now that Dr Duncan is not a big fan of us "ROMAN" Catholics anyway...

Is Webdiary trying to win the ABC award for religious intolerance?  Two anti-Catholic articles in a few days.  Of course I remember the tirade of abuse and hatred that was published in this place when Pope John Paul II died.

Charming. 

Richard (later) :  I've just got home from watching Australian Idol's Damien Leith sing "Danny Boy" (beautifully) as his encore.  Not anit-Catholic, David, couldn't be.. mates with probably too many.

Condom people, eh?

I think your figures may be rubbery, Malcolm.

Are you sure you have the Costa right?  Wasn't it Scipione the  Elder?

And what about the authenticity of relics picked up in the parks where the dog walkers go, offered at inflated prices and sold in opaque plastic bags to naifs by unscrupulous folk afforded licences for holy relics from the Vatican?

And haven't the Marxist  brothers rectum any way?