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Ten reasons why young idealistic people should forget about organised politics

G'day. This is the text of the speech Mark Latham is giving tonight. I'll publish a transcript of my interview with Mark Latham tomorrow.

 

Ten reasons why young idealistic people should forget about organised politics

Public Lecture by Mark Latham
University of Melbourne, 27 September 2005

Let me start with a few thank yous. I want to thank the Vice Chancellor and his university for hosting this public lecture, demonstrating that The Latham Diaries have a lot to say about political science and social studies in this country.

I also want to thank Louise Adler and her team at Melbourne University Publishing for producing the book and weathering the storm that surrounds it. As Senator Faulkner always told me, political history is written in books, not newspaper articles. And MUP has published a good-looking and accessible book for the benefit of future historians and students.

But most of all, I want to thank the political and media establishment for the way in which they have received The Latham Diaries. When John Howard, the Australian Labor Party, the Canberra Press Gallery, and the Packer and Murdoch empires combine, as they have over the past fortnight, to tell people not to read this book, it sends a powerful message: the Canberra Club has a lot to worry about and a lot to hide.

Thankfully, the reading public are not silly. They are not easily swayed by media hysteria and sensationalism. They know what's going on here: The Latham Diaries blow the whistle on the Canberra Club, providing a contemporary, behind-the-scenes account of the many flaws in the system.

This is why the book sold out last week and MUP has had to triple the print run. Universally, as they read the diaries, people are discovering that it is a very different book from the one they have been hearing about in the media. It is full of good humour, reflection and serious analysis about the true state of Australian politics.

Many years ago, I reached the conclusion that there are no ethics or standards in the commercial media. But even I have been surprised by the long list of commentators who reviewed the book without having read it. And those who have offered critical reviews without admitting that they are, in fact, criticised in the book.

This confirms my belief, as set out in the diaries, that if politics is show business for ugly people, then political commentary in Australia is payback from ugly old men. My long-running arrangement with them still applies: I write fifty words about them and then they write 50 000 words about me.

So, I again thank them for their contribution. They have convinced a significant number of people (well-educated and discerning) to read the book. These days, the public distrust media opinion even more than they distrust the major political parties. Increasingly, they want to cut out the middleman, the unnecessary filter of third party opinion, and make their own judgement, straight from the source material-in this case, The Latham Diaries.

My other thank you is to the audience here this evening. I appreciate your interest in the book and the lessons that can be drawn from my political career. That's my theme for this lecture: passing on my experience and advice after eleven years in Federal Labor politics.

In a gathering such as this, I'm sure there are some young idealistic people interested in running for parliament. I have to say to you, as frankly and sincerely as I can, don't do it.

It doesn't give me any pleasure to say this, but I need to be honest with you. The system is fundamentally sick and broken, and there are other more productive and satisfying ways in which you can contribute to society. Whatever you do, don't get involved in organised politics. Let me give you ten good reasons why you should do something else with your time.

Number One: The Problem of Public Apathy

There was a time when politics was treated as an honoured profession in our society, but that time has now passed. After decades of ridicule in the media and shameful opportunism and cynicism on both sides of politics, most people now treat politicians with contempt. Only the political class maintains the façade that what they do is important and well respected.

Public apathy has hollowed out our democracy and handed power to a small clique of party machine men. The original ideals of representative democracy-based on mass participation, community involvement and accountability - have been replaced by the work of an elected aristocracy.

How has this happened? I think Marshall McLuhan was correct: the medium is the message. When television became the dominant political medium in the 1970s, it emptied out the intellectual content and idealism of the system, narrowing the politicians into seven-second grabs and media imagery. Just look at the artificiality of modern election campaigning, with everything staged and choreographed for TV. Politics has become a temporary and shallow exercise in spin, something akin to the world of commercial advertising.

Naturally, over time, the public began to see through the phoniness of this system. And how did the major parties respond to the public's cynicism? They became even narrower-in the 1980s, adopting new forms of technology and professionalism to get the message through. Not face-to-face argument and persuasion, but direct mail, advertising and telephone polling. That is, replaying back to the electorate the things people have already told the pollster.

And so the vicious cycle continued: people became even more cynical and stopped participating in politics. By the 1990s, the limited number of Australians that used to belong to political parties and go to meetings had dried up. In the Labor Party, for example, active party membership (as opposed to ethnic branch stacking) collapsed. It became a virtual party, ripe for takeover by the factional chiefs and machine men.

In my old constituency of Werriwa, for instance, there would be no more than fifty active members (devoting more than two hours per week to Party matters). This is a traditional Labor seat, represented by two party leaders and a Federal Treasurer, where only one in every 2500 citizens takes an active interest in Labor politics. My successor in Werriwa had not been to a local branch meeting in twenty years  -he was hand-picked by the Sussex Street machine because of his compliance to the ruling Right-wing faction.

This is the state of modern Labor, the oldest political party in the country. I estimate that it has no more than 7500 real members nationwide, enough to fill a small suburban soccer ground. And the Liberal and National Parties are even worse off.

The politicians hate to admit it, but apathy rules in Australian politics. In my diaries I conclude that the electorate is broken into four groups:

  • Fifteen per cent of people who are well informed and progressive in their values, caring about community services and social justice - a passionate but limited audience.

  • Another fifteen per cent who are well informed conservatives: essentially business types, social elites and religious fanatics committed to the status quo in society.

  • A further twenty per cent who are down and out in society: the chronically unemployed, disabled, mentally ill and isolated-people who are often hostile and bitter about the political system, with good reason.

  • And finally, the great apathetic middle class that determines election outcomes in Australia-heavily committed to materialism and the consumption of voyeuristic media, but largely disinterested in politics and public debate.

In all the media commentary about my diaries, no one has tried to contradict this analysis, preferring to simply ignore it. If the political class owned up to this basic truth about the sad nature of our democracy, it would be puncturing its own air of self-importance. And that is the last thing they will ever do.

So, ladies and gentlemen, if you decide to join a political party and hope to run for parliament, you need to know what you are getting yourself in for-a sensible precaution. You will find that politics is now widely regarded as a dishonourable profession, ripe for media ridicule, public cynicism and distrust. Inevitably, you will join a party hollowed out by these problems and dominated by an unhealthy subculture of machine politics.

This may be a bleak and pessimistic conclusion to reach but at least it has the virtues of honesty and realism: whatever you do, don't do it.

Number Two: The Loss of Personal Privacy

One of the worrying trends in our society is the rise of escapism. As the relations between people have broken down-evident in the loss of community and social capital - they have sought to escape these difficulties through the pursuit of materialism and voyeurism. In particular, this is the new religion of middle-class Australia: people reaching for four-wheel drives, double-storey homes, reality television and gossip magazines to find meaning and satisfaction in their lives.

I despair at the cult of celebrity that now dominates much of our public culture. As people struggle with their social relationships, they invariably peer into other people's lives, seeking solace in someone else's reality. The public's thirst for celebrity seems insatiable: witness the power and popularity of reality TV. Anyone can have his or her fifteen minutes of fame while everyone else watches.

This has had a devastating impact on Australia's political culture. Politics is now regarded as just another form of entertainment, ripe for ridicule and prying into politicians' private lives. We have gone down the American path in ending the distinction between public and private, looking at politics through the prism of fame and celebrity.

The media feeds this habit because it sustains their profits. They try to legitimise it through 'the public's right to know' but in practice, they could not survive financially without fostering society's voyeurism. This is what gives the media their mass: everyone knowing what other people are doing, even if it has nothing to do with them.

One of the reasons for publishing my diaries is to let people know how bad the media's voyeurism has become. During my fourteen months as Leader of the Opposition, I had journalists and photographers hiding in the dark outside my home. I had them charging along the beach trying to take pictures of my children playing in the sand. I had them working themselves up into feverish speculation about a buck's night video that did not exist. I had them prying into trivial and untrue things that supposedly happened to my family twenty years ago. I even had the Sydney Morning Herald take the unprecedented step of allocating two so-called investigative journalists for two months to research and write up a long profile about my sex life. They didn't find much, of course, but the experience in being researched this way was sickening.

The commercial media do not like my book because it exposes them for what they are: voyeuristic and unethical. For some journalists, the problem runs even deeper. One of the telling aspects of the John Brogden tragedy in New South Wales was the involvement of the same group of media men who took such an unhealthy interest in my private life, namely Glenn Milne, Luke McIlveen and David Penberthy from News Limited and Damien Murphy from Fairfax. Quite frankly, Freud would have a field day with some of these characters.

Another example of bad behaviour recorded in my diaries was Mark Riley, now a presenter for Channel Seven News, going through Minister Helen Coonan's household garbage bin to obtain documents for a story. It is a terribly degrading and depraved thing for a grown man to do. With the publication of this incident, I expected that the Press Gallery might show some contrition.

Far from it, the Vice-President of the Gallery, Paul Bongiorno, from Channel Ten, defended the practice, saying, "There's no disgrace getting your hands dirty for a good story. What about rummaging around for the truth?" When I was Labor Leader, Bongiorno would ring my press office every other day, passing on tips and information picked up from the Liberals. I now feel ashamed of this association. Indeed, it makes my stomach turn to realise how badly media ethics in this country have deteriorated. Along with other vermin, they now regard people's garbage bins as fair game.

So if anyone here is thinking of a career in politics, apply this simple test tonight. Go home, walk past your garbage bin and see how comfortable you feel at the prospect of a Mark Riley or a Paul Bongiorno rummaging through your personal items and debris for material they can broadcast to the public. Any normal, decent person would reach the same conclusion I reached: this is a sick culture that should be avoided.

Number Three: The Crippling Impact on Family

During my round of media interviews last week, I heard the story of someone who thought about going into politics and then decided against it. He told one of his friends he couldn't do it because "he didn't hate his children enough". This is a wise assessment of the impact of politics on family life and the reason why people with young children should stay out of the system. It's a hopeless lifestyle.

As a politician, I spent a lot of time talking about policies to help people get the balance right between work and family. In practice, I needed some myself. This was an unbearable part of the job. Even during the honeymoon period, my first months as Opposition Leader, I was worried about the way in which politics was overwhelming my family life, colonising my private time. Throughout 2004, the diaries recorded these personal concerns.

The diaries also dealt with the shocking level of media intrusion into our lives. Undoubtedly, this is the worst aspect of public life: the assumption by the media and the general public that they own part of you, that everything you do is public property. For a young family, in particular, this was untenable.

Some political leaders seem to revel in the non-stop attention and busy schedule that these positions provide. I disliked this part of the job, what seemed like an endless series of short and superficial encounters with people-the antithesis of family life. As the former Howard Government minister, Warwick Smith, said to me: every day you spend away from your children is a day you never get back. And in politics, you spend far too many days away from your children.

Leaving parliament behind has been liberating for my health and my family. I have no doubt it was the right decision. I love being a home-dad, although it is pathetic to see the media denigrate this style of life. Last week the presenter on ABC morning radio in Adelaide complained that when my children go to school, I will be sitting around the house doing nothing. I'm yet to find out what planet he comes from.

One of my goals now is to regain my privacy. I will never be anonymous again in this country but at least I can return to a normal life. There is something horribly unnatural about losing your privacy. It's like losing part of yourself and the security and peace of mind that comes from knowing that these things belong to you, your loved ones and nobody else. I spent too many years talking about the importance of the public sector without properly valuing the things in life that are private and personal. I'm now making up for lost time.

Number Four: The Rise of Machine Politics

A recurring theme in my diaries is the corrosive impact of machine politics on the ALP. This is a key point for young people to understand: in becoming politically active today, you would not be joining a political party (in the conventional sense) but a political machine - an oligarchy dominated by opportunism, careerism and acts of bastardry. This is the unhappy story of Labor's culture over the past twenty years.

As Labor's real membership declined, it was relatively easy for a handful of factional powerbrokers to grab hold of the Party in the 1980s. They had the resources of head office and the trade unions to back them and met little resistance from the so-called rank-and-file membership (which had been gutted by ethnic branch stacking). This was a takeover hostile to democratic principles: they stripped the remaining assets of the Party, turning ALP conferences and policy committees into hand-picked, stage-managed jokes.

A few dozen Party officials and faction bosses now effectively control the organisation: who goes into Parliament, how MPs vote in Caucus and how decisions are made in national and State Party forums. Very few people progress without their say so: through Young Labor, into trade union and State ministerial offices, recruited for future factional and parliamentary service. It's a dense network of influence - full of favours, patronage and, if anyone falls out with them, payback.

You need to be brave and carefree to stand up to them, breaking the code of silence by which machine politics operates. That's what my diaries have done. Politicians who write books after they leave parliament usually offer sanitised versions to the public. They are still on the gravy train, hoping to benefit from the system's largesse.

In my case, I have no desire to be the Ambassador to Spain or Head of the Water Board, so I can speak freely and give an honest account of events. The system doesn't like it, of course, as it threatens the status and power of a generation of machine politicians, hangers-on and media pretenders. But I say that's a good thing. I walked outside the system and believe the public has got the right to know what goes on inside it.

Many senior Labor people privately agree with my analysis of the Party, but are too scared to speak openly for fear of retribution. Let me give some examples:

  • In January, Jennie George, the Member for Throsby and former ACTU President, wrote to me, saying that, "Politics is a brutal business. I thought the union movement was tough, but this was no comparison to the internal dysfunctional culture of the ALP". Brutal and dysfunctional - apt descriptions of the way in which the Labor movement operates.

  • In February, Barry Jones, the ALP National President, wrote to me as follows: "The major problems in the Party are systemic, essentially caused by the stranglehold on recruitment by the factions, which remain as cancerous as they were when Hawke and Wran used that term in their 2002 review". Two more apt descriptions - 'systemic' and 'cancerous'.

  • Two weeks ago, a Federal MP from Victoria wrote that, "I hope the sensible things you have to say about the state of the Party are not subsumed in an orgy of banal trivia whipped up by the media, as it is indeed in a parlous state, particularly in Victoria". A sharp analysis and prophecy.

  • Last week, a Federal MP from one of the smaller States emailed me as follows: "I actually feel positive about what I have read so far (in your book) and in the longer term, you may have given the Labor Party a last gasp at reforming itself before we go the way of the British Liberals in the 1920s".

  • And just yesterday, another email, from a Labor frontbencher: "Congratulations on the book. If anything it is mild, compared to what goes on inside the Party … In particular, we need to do something about the number of union hacks winning pre-selection for the Senate. This just adds to the stultifying impact of the factions".

While it is sad to see Australian Labor degenerate so badly, this issue also needs to be understood in its broader context. Political scientists have identified machine politics as a persistent problem for social democratic parties.

Fifty years ago, in his book Political Parties, Robert Michels argued that prominent Left-wing movements inevitably fall under the influence of paid officials and apparatchiks, men more committed to the bureaucratic control and administration of the party than the radical transformation of society. The party machine offers its own rewards, in the form of careerism and enhanced social status. Over time, these benefits become an end in their own right. Idealism and ideology are superseded by the internal contest and maintenance of power - an intractable problem.

My experience inside the ALP replicates the Michels model. As the diaries show, I thought about these issues for nearly a decade but was never able to find a feasible solution. Others might have more success in the future, but my conclusions then, as now, are overwhelmingly pessimistic. I cannot see a way of overcoming the machine men and their influence.

Number Five: The Politics of Personal Destruction (Labor-style)

As the factions have taken control of the ALP, they have perverted its political methods. Dissidents and independent thinkers have been systematically attacked and marginalised by the party bosses. What the powerbrokers cannot control, they will destroy. And they are not too fussy about how this might be achieved. It has produced a culture that Graham Richardson brazenly popularised as 'whatever it takes'.

Nothing is off limits. Personal matters are seen as fair game and are frequently used to hound the vulnerable into submission. This is now the ruling culture inside the Labor Caucus, with the many factional and sub-factional chiefs spending all day on the phone, gossiping, plotting and spreading rumours about their so-called colleagues. It is the politics of personal destruction.

My diaries detail the tragic impact of this culture on Greg Wilton. Five years after Greg's death, it was time for the truth to be told. The immediate response of the Canberra Club was instructive: they went into denial, with the media insisting that if Kim Beazley had cried about Greg's death in the parliamentary condolence motion then surely, as Leader of the ALP, he would have contacted and comforted Greg behind the scenes. Greg's sister, Leeanda Wilton, has confirmed the truth of this matter and highlighted the burning paradox about Beazley: an impression of public decency, offset by the private reality of indecency.

I have no doubt that, over time, people will also come forward and confirm the nature of his personal smear against me. Notwithstanding the threats and intimidation of the ALP machine men, too many people know about this matter for it to be kept inside the Party.

For instance, after his conversation with Beazley's campaign manager, Robert Ray, in late 2003, John Murphy was so disturbed by what he had heard that he sought reassurance about my character from two senior Caucus members. I have spoken to both of them and there is no way in the world Murphy was worried about my record on Liverpool Council, as he is now claiming. The matter concerned a sexual harassment smear against me.

Again, it has been instructive to watch the media reporting of this issue. It reveals the self-centred, know-all nature of so many journalists, believing that if they did not see or hear something in Canberra, it could not have happened. I cite three examples:

  • In the Sydney Morning Herald on 3 September, David Marr wrote that, "The allegations swirling round Mark Latham at the last election-sexual harassment (etc) - were not being leaked to the press by his very many enemies in Labor ranks. They were pushing other complaints but not these".

  • In The Australian last Saturday, a Sussex Street press secretary, Brad Norington, wrote that, "No complaint was pursued, no dirt file kept and the (sexual harassment) issue lapsed (in 1998)".

  • Two Saturdays ago in the same newspaper, Matt Price wrote that, "Perhaps I move in the wrong circles but not once did I hear any scuttlebutt about Latham's personal life from colleagues, opponents or anyone else".

Have no doubt, one of the circles Matt Price has moved in for many years is Annabel Crabb's - in fact, few journalists in Canberra are closer friends. Marr, Norington and Price look silly, however, when one reads Crabb's assessment of the sexual harassment smear, emailed to me in March:

This was, for years, quite a persistent rumour among Labor people. I should say I heard the rumour a few times over the years but only ever from Labor people, and usually as part of a colourful diatribe against the Latham character from known detractors.

It will be interesting to see how Crabb deals with this matter in her forthcoming book on Labor in Opposition. Better still, when she launches the book later this week, Crabb should identify the 'Labor people' involved.

In practice, the politics of personal destruction, in all its sickness and perversion, is now a regular part of the Canberra culture. The only rational, effective way of dealing with it is to avoid it like the plague.

Number Six: The Politics of Personal Destruction (Liberal-style)

The John Brogden tragedy has shown that the culture on the other side of politics is just as bad. Even after he had resigned the Liberal Party leadership, Brogden's enemies inside the Party were still trying to destroy him. Then they moved on to spreading rumours about a leadership contender, Barry O'Farrell, with claims about a magazine supposedly found in his office twelve years ago. More sick puppies in the sick world of Australian politics.

No one should be surprised about this part of the Liberal Party. Any organisation that has Bill Heffernan in a senior position-the right-hand-man to the Prime Minister, no less-is obviously comfortable with the politics of personal destruction. As John Hewson has written, "Howard has used Heffernan to distribute dirt and to run his agenda against individuals for almost as long as I have known him". Given that Hewson has known Howard for more than twenty-five years, this behaviour is well entrenched.

After his disgusting campaign against Justice Michael Kirby, Heffernan's papers should have been stamped 'never to tour again'. To see him reinvented in the media these days as some kind of romantic, rough-riding Australian original is appalling. For me, Heffernan's perverted obsessions with sex are the antithesis of what Australian male culture should be about.

Increasingly, normal people, especially those with young families, will steer clear of a political system dominated by the likes of Howard and Heffernan. The political class in this country is narrowing into two types of characters: the flint-hearted machine men who are happy to do whatever it takes, and the freaks and weirdos of the Religious Right, with their sexual hang-ups and policy obsessions. This is happening on both sides of politics in varying degrees.

Number Seven: The Entrenched Conservatism of Australian Politics

These trends are making the work environment of Australian politics incredibly conservative. This is one of the important themes in my book-the way in which the system tries to push people into a culture of conformity: the acceptable way of thinking and expressing oneself. The key power-blocs of modern politics - the party machines, commercial media and business establishment - try to foster this one-dimensional approach. They like their politicians to be cautious, predictable and easily brought under control.

Multi-dimensional characters, vibrant and progressive in their beliefs, are seen as a threat to the status quo. They may do something radical, disturbing the existing order of things and its vested interests. Have no doubt: the elites who have accumulated power and privilege in our society will always fight hard to maintain it.

By and large, they have been highly successful. Over time, our national political culture has become more timid and uniform. Just look along the benches of the Australian Parliament: it has lost its larrikins, its true Australian characters. In their place sit the bland white-bread politicians, the true Tories of parliamentary life.

Please understand the extent of this problem, the forces lined up against you. All the influences, all the messages in modern politics are conservative:

  • The media are just another form of commerce, so they support the status quo in society. They see stability as good for the business environment, good for commerce and their advertising revenue-institutionalised conservatism. Their journalists are simple souls, not too keen on extensive research and original analysis. They like the one-dimensional characters in politics because they are nice and easy to report. In their world-view, anyone who swears, has a dig and stays up past 9 p.m. looks like a dangerous radical.

  • The system is also conservative about ideas. In the academic world, the process of responding to new evidence, revising old findings and reaching fresh conclusions is known as learning. It is celebrated as intellectual growth. In politics, it is demonised as wild and erratic. A century ago, Australia was seen internationally as a social laboratory. Today, we live in a conservative backwater.

  • The political machine men only preserve their hierarchy of command and control if the people below them always comply. The values and methods of party politics have become very insular. Anyone genuinely interested in innovation and risk-taking is stigmatised as mad and dangerous. The system now has zero tolerance of radical policies and those who advocate them.

Number Eight: The Arrogance and Incompetence of the Media

More things need to be said about the media, serious problems that can make public life unbearable. My diaries deal with these issues in detail:

  • The arrogance of the media-the significant number of proprietors, broadcasters and journalists who regard themselves as political participants, much more than observers. Most politicians, of course, are afraid to take on this problem, deciding not to tell the truth about the media because they might need them in the future.

  • Indeed, the worst relationship in the media is the dependency relationship formed between the party machine men and selected journalists. The machine men provide access to strategic leaks, polling and other forms of 'inside' information and, in return, the journalists run their line for them. This is one of the reasons why 'off-the-record' reporting has become so prevalent in Canberra-a weird form of secret society in which journalists now use more anonymous quotes than on-the-record information.

  • Another corrosive media practice is the relentless trivialisation of public life. Big, serious policy issues are seen and presented through the prism of conflict and personality politics. Increasingly, the media use politics to entertain the public, rather than inform them in the traditional sense.

  • Finally, on this point, anyone going into politics has to deal with an extraordinary level of media incompetence - basic errors of fact and misreporting. In part, this is a by-product of the voyeuristic culture: whatever the media do not know about you, they will simply make up. This is the one industry I know of where the more mistakes people make, the more likely they are to be promoted.

Number Nine: Social Problems Require Social Solutions

In this lecture I've been critical of Australia's political culture, but this issue also needs to be seen in its broader context. I regard party politics and the media as public manifestations of a bigger, more serious problem-the loss of social capital. If families and communities are falling apart, if people feel alienated and empty in their relationship with others, if the bonds of social trust and support are weak, it is hardly surprising that our political parties are dominated by self-serving oligarchies.

Without a strong base of social capital, it is relatively easy for a small group of people to control and manipulate the political system. They simply fill the gap left by the paucity of public participation and community activism. History tells us this is how hierarchies of power are established and sustained. The weakness of our democracy is a function of the sickness of our society.

Traditionally, left-of-centre parties have tried to achieve their goals for social justice by tackling various forms of economic disadvantage. Today, however, the biggest problems in society, the things that cause hardship and distress for people, tend to be relationship-based. They are social issues, not economic. The paradox is stunning: we live in a nation with record levels of financial growth and prosperity, yet also record levels of discontent and public angst. The evidence is all around us:

  • The extraordinary loss of peace of mind in society, evident in record rates of stress, depression and mental illness.

  • The breakdown in basic relationships of family and community, generating new problems of loneliness and isolation in Australia. The traditional voluntary and mutual associations of community life have all but disappeared, replaced by home fortresses and gated housing estates.

  • The appalling incidence of crimes against family and loved ones: sexual assault, domestic violence and the sickness of child abuse.

  • And the spillover of these problems onto the next generation of young Australians, in the form of street crime, drug and alcohol abuse and youth suicide.

A striking aspect of this phenomenon has been the way in which it has affected all parts of society, regardless of their economic standing. Poor communities, after several generations of long-term unemployment and financial disadvantage in Australia, now face the further challenge of social disintegration, a loss of self-esteem and solidarity. Thirty years ago, these communities were financially poor but socially rich. Today, they face poverty on both fronts.

While the middle class in Australia has experienced the assets and wealth of an unprecedented economic boom, its social balance sheet has moved in the opposite direction. The treadmill of work and the endless accumulation of material goods have not necessarily made people happier. In many cases, it has denied them the time and pleasures of family life, replacing strong and loving social relationships with feelings of stress and alienation.

This is the savage trade-off of middle-class life: generating financial wealth but at a significant cost to social capital. Thus, social exclusion needs to be understood as more than financial poverty. It also involves the poverty of society, the exclusion of many affluent Australians from strong and trusting personal relationships.

These changes represent a huge shift in the structure of our society. The role of the market economy has expanded, while community life has been downsized. Today, when Australians see a social problem, they are more likely to pursue a market-based answer than a community solution. This has led to the commercialisation of public services and the grotesque expansion of market forces into social relationships. It has weakened the uniquely Australian institutions of mateship and egalitarianism.

Unlike other forms of capital, social capital is a learned habit. It exists in the experiences and relationships between people. If people are not able to exercise their trust in each other, they are likely to lose it. This appears to be the unhappy state of modern Australian society. The relationship between international markets and local communities has become imbalanced. For too many citizens, global capital has become a substitute for social capital.

In my experience and study of the new middle class, people have a particular way of dealing with this problem. Sure, they would like to find a solution to a range of problems in their community, but their faith in our system of governance is so weak, they have no expectation that this is possible. It is inconceivable to them that various forms of political and civic action might make a difference. They become resigned, therefore, to a weak set of social relationships.

In these circumstances, people tend to withdraw further from civil society and pursue other forms of personal recognition and self-esteem. The politics of 'me', the individual, replaces the politics of 'we', the community. People try to escape from these relationship-based problems by turning inwards, pursuing temporary and artificial forms of personal gratification-hence the rise of materialism and voyeurism.

The crisis in social capital is also a crisis for social democracy. If people do not practise mutual trust and cooperation in their lives, they are not likely to support the redistributive functions of government. If they have no interest or experience in helping their neighbours, why would they want the public sector to help people they have never met? Indeed, the dominant electoral mood is to take resources away from other people and communities, as evidenced by the rise of downwards envy in Australia.

In my diaries, I often agonised about these issues, trying to find ways of making the social democratic project sustainable. After a decade of research and analysis, my conclusions were bleak. The task of social reformers is extraordinarily difficult, if not impossible. Not only must they rebuild the trust and cohesiveness of civil society, they also need to motivate people about the value and possibilities of organised politics. If and when these formidable tasks are completed, they then need to win majority public support for a sweeping program of social justice.

The pillars of conservatism in our society have a much easier task: supporting the status quo and scaring people about the uncertainties of political change. They have no interest in generating public enthusiasm in politics and the reform process. This is what binds the ruling class together: the shared interests of the conservative parties, the commercial media and other parts of the business establishment in preserving the existing social order and its concentration of power in their hands.

Is today's Labor Party, built around its own hierarchy of conservatism and machine politics, going to challenge and overcome this system? Not that I can see. Even if it were hungry to take on the ruling elite, I doubt that the Party would embrace the appropriate reform program: grassroots policies to rebuild social cooperation and mutuality. Labor politicians come into parliament to take control, to pull the levers of public administration. They support a top-down process of governance, based on an expectation that politicians and political machines can direct and control social outcomes. They are not familiar or comfortable with the methodology of social capital.

Community building sits outside the conventional methods of party politics. Whereas public policy relies on a sense of order and predictability, the work of civil society is spontaneous and disorderly. Whereas governments try to have a direct and tangible impact on their citizens, the creation of mutual trust relies on processes that are diffuse and intangible. There is no point in passing a Social Capital Bill and expecting it to make people community-minded.

Trust occurs as a by-product of the relationship between people. It is not like a well-ordered machine, whereby policy makers can pull the levers and mandate a particular result. The best they can hope for is to influence the social environment in which trust is created. They need to see themselves as facilitators of social capital, rather than controllers of social outcomes.

This is best achieved by transferring influence and resources to communities, devolving as many decisions and public services as possible. Real power comes from giving power away. But this is not how the parliamentary system works, especially a machine political party. Powerbrokers try to capture and control the authority of government, not give it away. They believe in the centralisation of power, not its dispersal. The square peg of Labor politics does not fit into the round hole of social capital, an insoluble problem.

So the most effective contribution people can make to our society is at a community level: in rebuilding social capital, improving our neighbourhoods, joining social movements and helping local charities, sporting and community organisations. Social problems require social solutions. The answers are not to be found in organised politics.

Number Ten: The Sane, Rational Choice

Finally, if you don't believe me, take the advice of the biographer, Michael Duffy, who knows my experience well. Last weekend, he wrote that:

It remains the most extraordinary thing about Latham that he voluntarily walked away from the leadership of the ALP. Indeed, it is one of the most unusual actions ever by any Australian politician. It made him a class traitor, that class being the only one that matters any more in politics: the political class. The diaries have merely compounded the original offence, which was to reject what that class regards as most important: politics itself.

Some members of the political class, incapable of understanding this have suggested that Latham is insane. However, from the outside it looks the opposite: it looks like an act of supreme sanity. People involved in politics spend a lot of time these days talking about how bad it has become.

Latham is not unique in this regard (although the scale and insight in The Latham Diaries are new and important). But most of the critics don't seem to take what they're saying seriously, because they stay in there. But Latham did take that decay seriously.

Ladies and gentlemen, you too should take it seriously. If you are a young, idealistic person, don't get involved in organised politics. Contribute to your community, your neighbourhood, your immediate circle of trust and support. This is the best way forward for a better society.

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re: Ten reasons why young idealistic people should forget about

I attended the Mark Latham lecture at Melbourne University yesterday. I'm a non-party-member politically interested person and found the presentation revealing and very important in understanding the current Labor Party.

It's clear that Mark Latham is not a crazy as he is being portrayed by the journalistic and political pack. Rather, he sees himself as a whistle blower, exposing candidly the real state of play in politics particularly as regards the Labor Party and its relationships with journalists. He outed the political class comprising mainly the Labor party machine and the journalists. He said that the Labor Party real live membership is probably no more than 3500 around Australia, apart from branch stacking of artificial members. Listening to him I was struck by the similarity with the old Russian communist nomenklatura, and his references to how left leaning idealistic parties to come under the control of the machine men and operators.

He worked through how the machine men are more focussed on ferocious turf wars rather than real policy development.

Questioners quite properly picked him up on the implicit tension or hypocrisy of his being the leader of the party and wondered what would have happened if he had won. He responded by saying that he thought that by winning an election he would be able to proceed with other reforms.

I think that a critical element was how he portrayed Crean as having tried to introduce some organisational reform, and positioned Beazley as being the candidate (puppet?) of the apparatchiks, brought in after they'd destabilised Crean because of the potential for him to disrupt their control of the Labor Party.

I reiterate that he was very rational, very focussed and icily calm, as indeed is his book. I think that many journalists have focussed on the bile in his book (and there is plenty) and there has not been enough focus on his excellent icy analysis of the poor quality of the fundamental operation of the Party.

It made me shudder to think that this group had a possibility of running our country.

Anyone who reads the book (and I understand the first edition is sold out and Melbourne University Press is printing another) will think very long and hard about voting for Labor. I think that this will provoke a need for reform in the Labor party or else they will stay out of office for several elections.

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Mark Latham concludes that the electorate is broken into four groups:
“Fifteen per cent of people who are well informed and progressive in their values, caring about community services and social justice - a passionate but limited audience.
Another fifteen per cent who are well informed conservatives: essentially business types, social elites and religious fanatics committed to the status quo in society.
A further twenty per cent who are down and out in society: the chronically unemployed, disabled, mentally ill and isolated-people who are often hostile and bitter about the political system, with good reason.
And finally, the great apathetic middle class that determines election outcomes in Australia-heavily committed to materialism and the consumption of voyeuristic media, but largely disinterested in politics and public debate.”

I think Mark is right, as long as the economy is running smoothly the apathetic middle class will support any government that maintains the status quo. The crunch for the current government will come when the economy turns sour. Climate change, Peak Oil or US debt levels will most likely be the trigger. Let’s hope that the crunch comes quickly or we may be too late to change our ways, the planet may be changed forever. See Tim Flannery’s new book, The Weather Makers. See here.

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Latham will make a lot of money from his book; conservatives will breath a sigh of relief that they will win another election; media people will be grateful they have something to talk about.

And what will change? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Why? Because big business runs the world, and there isn't a thing anyone can do to change that.

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Hi Margo, I dont see what his point is. If young idealistic people were interested in politics, wouldn't they go for the idealism of the Greens or some other party, the Democrats maybe? I am 30 years old and am becoming a rusted on Greens supporter. I don't believe politics is that stuffed, well if were talking Labor yes it is. But if only people realised that there are other partys there, maybe they would rise in popularity. OR if the Media wasnt so focused on the Tweedle dee tweedle dumb politics of the LAB LIB duocracy.

In a country like this its such a shame to see that fear and lies rule people and that they can't lift their head above, and merely refuse the crap we have as polis today - by voting for the other parties. I think the Greens are the best chance for change.

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Yes, Solomon, you may be right about Latham being a tehnological determinist. And the way technology is changing he may have another opportunity to contribute.

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Latham used the factions to be Liverpool Mayor and used them to get in to Parliament and used them when he became opposition leader that lead to this resignation and his big super payout. Latham has valid points against the machine men and the factions, but the hypocrisy is obvious.

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Sort of reads a bit like "Ten reasons why a young person looking for answers should avoid organised religion" if you ask me. Same tenets.

Latham's clearly bitter about the system that spat him out, but he has a point or two.

Australia is a land of duopoly and oligopoly - I don't know the deep economic reason for that, we'll have to ask Ross Gittins. The upshot is that forms of collusion between power elites are common, and where not explicit, "signalling" between players suffices. Look at this week's Stokes court evidence, for an inside peek. Compare prices at our four on-line supermarkets (2 owned by Woolworths, the other 2 by Coles Myer). Give me a dollar for every time I heard "we can't do that - if we did the competition would follow and we'd all lose money" from product and strategy folk in our Financial Institutions in my 10 years of consulting to them. Consumers lose.

Politics works the same way in our country (and, fairly, plenty of others too). The language and behaviour of both the major parties belittles and locks out the minors to entrench the duopoly. "Don't worry, it's only a protest vote", or "it's alright for them to be a one issue party, they don't have to run the country". The media, in their own symbiotic oligopoly, are crucial to that game, of course.

Yes'it's a depressing picture Margo. It's really not clear what the answer is - citizens are disenfranchised enough now as to be powerless in dealing with this issue. And, we're not a country prone to people power revolutions.

Perhaps as some Webdiary commentators have suggested we ought to revisit direct democracy models using the Internet and other new technologies? But, outside the duopoly these experiments are meaningless. Inside, they are managed down so as not to cause a threat.

Media has to be the key. New, critical, independent, non-partisan, inclusive, fact-seeking media that can kick start public awareness, explain around the spin and enlighten and inform a broad range of IQs and cultures. And, there's evidence that the public is growing the right appetite, slowly slowly.

Get the media bit right, and after a while I'd argue the political system could well fix itself if new media can create the burning platform for change.

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Solomon Wakeling: "I thought the Republic 'No' vote was a victory for spite, rather than apathy."

Do you?

I just thought the Republican campaigns themselves were really misguided in the way they pitched their message, actually.

The "Resident for a President" slogan was definitely leading by the chin.

Immediately, people begin to think: "Presidents? Yeah. You vote them into office, don't you?"

Well, of course you do.

Except in places like Cuba where they are Presidents for life, a bit like the Pope.

The moment anyone mentions the word 'President', the average person quite reasonably thinks of Franklin Delano Roosevelt or Bill Clinton or François Mitterrand or someone.

The term 'President' connotes images of campaigns and hoopla elections.

Of 'Air Force One' and 'Hail to the Chief' and Charles de Gaulle stepping lithely from a shiny black Citroen Pallais.

But of course, that's not what the Republican Party wanted.

Definitely not elections, that is. Shiny black Citroen Pallais and big executive jets, yes.

But not elections. Awful things, those.

They doubtless all secretly fantasised about one day themselves becoming a Governor General - but being called 'Mr President'.

Malcolm Turnbull imagined that after he retired from being the Prime Minister, he would be 'elevated' to the rank of 'President' by his grateful successor.

Maybe indeed that would be the price his successor would have to pay to get Malcolm out of the Lodge.

Put him into a spanking new Harry Seidler designed Presidential Palace on the shores of Lake Burley Griffin.

Without ever having to campaign for the honour, Malcolm would just swan around at massive diplomatic parties in Washington and Zurich and St Petersburg being greeted as 'The President of Australia'.

You see, if they were serious about reforming the office of the Governor General, they'd alter the details of the Constitutional Arrangements another way.

They'd do what India did, and simply declare Australia a Republic.

Or they'd put that idea of a Republic to the electorate without even mentioning the Governor General.

And otherwise not bother changing the title of the Governor General at all.

So, the head of state in the new Australian Republic would be the Governor General of the Republic.

Appointed by the Parliament of the Republic of Australia.

Later, they would alter the name of the office of Governor General to that of President of the Republic of Australia. Quietly. By regulation. As a protocol because the term 'Governor General' was no longer considered appropriate to the proud Republic of Australia.

But that would mean the President would be historically acknowledged as no big deal in the overall scheme of things in the Westminster System as it applied in the Republic of Australia.

Well, where would that leave poor Malcom?

Hoping to become the UN Ambassador or something.

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David Eastwood : "It's really not clear what the answer is - citizens are disenfranchised enough now as to be powerless in dealing with this issue."

Hang on.

Isn't the issue here that Latham failed to get to be Prime Minister because the electorate resoundingly rejected him?

That sounds like the citizens were enfranchised.

Not disenfranchised.

Or are you defining citizenship according to whether a people shares your personal political beliefs and objectives?

That wouldn't surprise me entirely, given the not uncommon tendency for people in this country with minority political opinions to wallow in self pity, convinced the "ignorant apathetic masses" merely don't understand what excellent alternatives are on offer to them from political movements ranging from Family First through to the DSP.

I mean, let's put it this way David: If you can see the 'utter truth' as you perceive it, what makes you think others are less capable of doing so?

Your exceptional personal qualities, perhaps?

The enfranchised electorate of this nation thumped Latham for reasons that are now so blooming obvious it beggars belief anyone would even bother to dispute them.

Utterly laid bare now are Latham's frank admission that he wasn't really suited to the role he was seeking. That he didn't really want it. That he believes he couldn't really achieve anything of substance within the framework of government.

Then there are features of his personality which suggest a degree of emotional instability and personal immaturity making him totally unfit for the highest office in the land.

Facts plainly apparent to most of the electorate even before he spat the dummy.

If the electorate were unenfranchised, then that might have actually increased a Party-appointed leader's career prospects.

That a Party leader then has to submit himself to the electorate is the point where political ambitions of ill-suited political aspirants in this country will likely founder.

But it must be consoling to pretend to one's comrades that one's personal failure was entirely due to the inadequacies of both the electorate and the parliamentary system.

That's not to say there aren't shortcoming and inadequacies. But that's not what accounts for Latham's failings.

It is interesting to note nobody on this thread is arguing that, say, John Brogden was unfairly dealt with by the system. Isn't it?

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C Parsons, of course Brogden was unfairly dealt with by the system. by his party, and by the media.

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C Parsons, sorry - perhaps I didn't make my point clearly enough. I have no issue at all with the electorate rejecting Latham, good call in my view. The electorate is certainly well enough enfranchised to pick the lesser of the two evils offered us.

What I'm really concerned about is that the electorate has no power to do anything about the ruling political duopoly, who are more or less in cahoots with each other to preserve their hold on power. We get Labor or the Coalition, TINA (There is No Alternative). I'm not happy about that as I (like Latham) see both sides as deeply unsatisfactory - for reasons in some ways similar to those he expounds.

At this point I don't see any credible alternative in any of the minor parties either, and even if I did, they'd have no way of getting up as they're locked out by the duopoly.

That's what's depressing. That's why I haven't been able to vote for a few elections now.

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David, look up the terms, "retail price maintenance" on Google. ACCC Commissioner Graeme Samuel provides a useful summary and former Commissioner Alan Fels an overview of the function and impact of the Trade Practices Act.

The Coalition parties have very short and selective memories when they look back nostalgically to their Golden Age under Menzies. One of the less than economically liberal features of the Menzies Government which continued under Holt, Gorton and McMahon was retail price maintenance. Interestingly enough as Bob Hawke told the AWU recently:

The third thing that I always go to... is the enormous contribution you (the unions) made to the welfare of this country when we used the combined strengths of the Trade Union movement to smash the system of retail price maintenance. You won't remember this probably a lot of you, others of you will, but we had a system in this country where what (inaudible) adding billions of dollars to the cost of ordinary Australians every year, this is insane, it's criminal, introduced legislation to stop it. They wouldn't do it. So we in 1971 we took, the Trade Union movement took the matter in our own hands. We had our store, Bourke's Store, manufacturers wouldn't supply us. I went to the unions, I said we're not going to cop this are we, they said no we're not and so we took them on. And the Trade Union movement smashed retail price maintenance in this country and what that has simply meant, and it should never be forgotten, is that today the Australian public is hundreds of billions of dollars better off because they smashed retail price maintenance and reduced price in this country. That is the effort of the Trade Union movement in that area and it's part of the story you have to tell.

The Bourke's initiative had been preceded by some limited attempts to work around the restrictions by business (Sydney Wide Discounts for instance) to break the RPM monopolies, which extended from the UK-controlled book trade as outlined by Glen Lewis to the automotive industry (motor vehicle and petrol pricing) to the notorious two-airline duopoly and lately the US-dominated multimedia field.

Despite what the Government might like to have you think, the poor state of the Australian music industry and the restrictive behaviour of cinema and DVD distribution in this country is not due to those evil file-sharing sites but to the deliberate anti-competition behaviour of the big overseas players.

The domestic airline industry was subject to a limited form of ‘competition policy’ long before anyone called it that. However, the two incumbents were shielded from international competitors and had advantages with respect to terminal access and landing slots. Perhaps the duopoly was (or at least felt) too safe as the two incumbents were able to see off a host of would-be rivals.

Supermarkets had started the process of undercutting RPM in the grocery area by the 1960s as the 1999 Joint Senate Committee Report: Fair Market or Market Failure? points out:

2.6 Woolworths and Coles already had chains of variety stores with central State-based warehouses. They each acquired small and innovative supermarket chains such as BCC in Brisbane and Flemings in Sydney, and converted many of their variety stores to a grocery and variety format. They created the first house brands in order to gain sufficient volumes of product for advertising and promotion, and focused on undercutting leading brands. Such home brands included `Pick of the Crop' for peas and `Flavour Joy' for cheese.

2.7 By the end of the 1960s, Woolworths and Coles bought out their franchisee butchers and implemented sophisticated food processing techniques. They also built their own meat distribution facilities and began to invest in integrated supply chains through long-term contracts with suppliers.

The unions wanted to get rid of RPM for the benefit of working families so they created the conditions for freeing up the retail market culminating in the Trade Practices Act and the ACCC. However economies of scale and the sheer size of the big players has meant that competition has been impaired significantly in the retail sector (except perhaps in places like South Australia where Sunday trading laws have worked to maintain the independent grocery retail sector to some extent).

The second part of the dilemma is the Howard Government's performance in smoothing the path for their favoured big players in areas such as media and telecommunications competition and their less than robust response to the petrol pricing crisis.

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C Parsons: "Isn't the issue here that Latham failed to get to be Prime Minister because the electorate resoundingly rejected him?

"That sounds like the citizens were enfranchised."

It seems you have curiously forgotten the incredibly negative campaign flaunted by Howard et al which was, at best unethical, at worst a hyprocritical mud sling with no reason nor benefit, except for their own pathetic ideologies. The public were bought, pure and simple. Howard had nothing for the greater good, only short term money-throws. Throw in a fear card, as well, and bingo!

Negativity is a resounding success in Howard's Australia. Every element in society has a pessimistic view of the future based on his vision for the country. Does that not concern you, C Parsons? The only one saying all is good is Howard!

"How could so fragile an ego, so brittle a personality, so vulgar and simplistic an individual get a run at administering the national affairs of an entire continent?"

Well, it worked for Howard, huh? Howard's ego is so small, he must hold on to the coat tails of the US, for a friendly pat on the head from time to time. Vulgar: Draconian, Dickensian, apathetic etc etc... sounds like the government front bench...

It's about time we get an open book on politics, and the hypocrisies held within both parties. If you think the Liberals are exempt from this, you couldn't be more wrong. Hell, I think the current crop of hypocrisy has it's genesis in direct correlation to Howard's 1996 victory.

Oh, and Greg Hynes: "It is funny to see Latham complaining about the politics of personal destruction after being a master of it when he was in Parliament through his filthy vulgar language. He is a hypocrite; no wonder the Lefties love him as he fits in with their character and values."

Does that mean you righties are dishonest, lying philanderers, with questionable ethics and mysonganistic tendencies, whist having a base view of the citizenry steeped in contempt and abhorence? No? Well, by your assessment, you could've fooled me.

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Scott Brown: "It seems you have curiously forgotten the incredibly negative campaign flaunted by Howard et al which was, at best unethical, at worst a hyprocritical mud sling with no reason nor benefit, except for their own pathetic ideologies."

It is interesting to contrast your view of how the campaign went with, say, political commentator Alan Ramsey. This the Wednesday before the election:

"John Howard remains his own best evidence that the Government is struggling. He behaves as uncharacteristically rattled as he looks ratty the closer we get to polling day. To lose the campaign does not necessarily mean the Government will lose the election. It does suggest, at best for Howard, a desperately close outcome. Labor has the momentum, and Latham seemingly all the answers, since the debate three weeks ago. Meanwhile, as Howard frets, Tony Abbott and Peter Costello fume? Why? That dreaded ABC."

This was a couple of days before the election, I remind you.

This staggering assesment, so utterly wrong and so pathetically tendentious, nonetheless reveals two things that have a bearing on this whole matter.

Firstly, in the mind of Alan Ramsey (and plenty of others at the time), the Prime Minister was supposed to have been completely rattled by the sheer brilliance of Latham's campaign.

And Latham's supporters managed to convince themselves that Mark was on his way to the Lodge.

There can be no doubt, judging by the shocked state Latham was in when he conceded defeat on national television, that he himself had no inkling he was headed for disaster.

Latham was everywhere being hailed as "in touch with the electorate", he never stopped bragging about how "ordinary people" were everywhere coming up to him and telling him how right he was and how wonderful he was.

Here's another assessment:

"The Labor Party's election campaign was looking healthy this week as the Coalition failed to undermine Latham's Medicare Gold policy."

Remember that master stroke?

The conservative element in Australian politics has a huge advantage working in its favour constantly.

Namely the complete incapacity of self-styled progressives over here for self doubt.

They seem always to think that by merely pronouncing their virtues, this somehow provides proof of them.

Mark Latham still cannot acknowledge that he lost heavily. You still cannot acknowledge it either.

Instead, it's much better for him to pretend he didn't really want to win.

And you to pretend somehow he didn't really lose.

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C Parsons and Scott Brown Your dialogue is a classic example of why the system's stuffed. Entrenched tribal positions circling two corrupt ideologies playing polemic ping pong.

Puhleeeeeezzzzze....

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C Parsons, why is it said that the public is always correct in their assessment of who should win an election? Should Nixon have won after Watergate? Should people have voted for Hitler in the numbers they did? Should Peron or Sharon have won? That assessment only works if the values the public give voice to, promote the best interests of the country as a whole. And that means the economic, social, cultural and political interests.

More people voted for Howard because of the unscrupulous campaign which deceived the gullible into thinking it was the Treasury that decided interest rates. Then the old hip pocket nerve started to twitch. It was pure self-interest which, while not the worst thing in the world, has its limitations when it comes to obtaining good outcomes for all.

How is that the fault of the progressives? What if all the policies that Labor could have put together, made no difference at all precisely because Howard pushed the right buttons to pump up the fear. Your analysis seems to be based on the assumption that we have a functioning democracy. Fear undermines the kind of rationality that makes for sound decisions, which is why those politicians mentioned above were able to get people to vote for them.

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I ignored this thread for a couple of days, but just read Latham's comments - they seem true in general terms.

C Parsons, Latham identifies members of the same unaccountable clique who damaged Brogden as people who also have run campaigns against him and Labor. To my way of thinking, these (sorts of) people have done enormous damage to democracy in the interests of oligarchic kleptocracy for as long as I can remember.

I must admit to commenting many times in these threads as to how the 'usual suspects' always turn up, when something or other unsavoury is being perpetrated by media and press within politics. I certainly did so during the Brogden affair.

Two young-ish men who, with a bit of time and the onset of maturity, could have been and may yet be, invaluable servants and representatives for their community.

The media long since surrendered its role of journal of record.

Today it is a secret (in its internal operating) influence that participates in community affairs, including relating to disbursement of community wealth and opportunity, without having to exhibit any of the same public accountability as the political reps do.

For the rest, refer Jenny Stirlings' post. The only point the writer could add by way of embellishment, comes in Jenny's comments re 'fear' with the undermining of that sane rationality required for a community to function well, I would have only added the hand-maiden of fear; ignorance.

That brings us back to power, both in parties and institutions, that is reified through fear and ignorance, at the expense of a more meaningful set of values and aspirations that many sense that remain partly obscured, against the glitzy allure of manipulation of power and attainment of its unfullfilling material symbols. Until humanity can somehow learn how to come to some sort of adjustment concerning power, that allows it to be constructive rather than reactive, the old 'Tower of Babel' model remains the operative mode.

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C Parsons, you picked the wrong person to lodge an anti-jewish claim against. I have and am an ardent supporter of their right to be in the Middle East. What I am also ardently against is the violence that has characterised the pursiut of this claim. And from what I have seen there are many Jews who are against it too. Yes they have been attacked but there have been opportunities for peace that have gone begging. What has made everything turn out so badly is people who claim that one side is right and the other wrong. They have at times both been right and both been wrong. And that's where you come in. Failure to acknowledge the moral complexities is a moral failure itself but then this was what you were accusing me of, wasn't it? Think again.

If it would make you feel better I would say that Arafat was as bad in many ways as Sharon. But you see, it was not my intent to be anti-jewish in the first place so I didn't think cover my ass from analyses such as yours. Some people, CP, don't come with agendas, just reasoned observations.

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Jenny Stirling: "Why it is that people who are trapped in a cycle of violence find it difficult to get themselves out of that position, when common sense dictates that they leave. What do you do think happens when they cannot get away? Well some erupt in violence themselves ie. Hamas, IRA, Other go into survival mode."

The claim that Hamas are the reluctant respondents to others' violence, perhaps forced against their better nature to 'strike back', is transparent nonsense given the entire, long and ugly history of anti-Jewish action in the Middle East going back well before there even was an Israel.

It is noteworthy you don't extend any similar concessions to the Israelis in view of the history of Jewish experience in the region.

Radhika Narayanan: "In that one paragraph you have demonstrated on how to take something totally out of context, put your own spin to it, and through such insinuation, create doubt and fear..."

Unfortunately though, Radhika, you have failed to show us anything at all.

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As a voter who is disappointed with Australian politics, I would like to know whether there are any groups forming to voice their discontent with the current process?

This is a serious question and I'm not interested in political or personal bashings, on either side of the political fence.

I am just not happy with my taxpayer dollars being spent on Dom Perignon at Parliament Christmas parties, and that the same people drinking this champagne are the ones who get to vote on whether they get a pay rise.

My views have not changed as a result of the Latham Diaries, I'm just surprised that any politician has spoken out about it.
Are there any groups or websites where these issues are actually being discussed?

To clarify: I don't mean Labour vs. Liberal debates, or bashing of particular politicians. I mean constructive interaction, with content, plans, goals and outcomes.
Terrence Ed. If you don't want to use your real name, use a nom de plume and briefly explain, for publication, why you don't want to use your real name. Please send Margo your real name on a confidential basis if you choose to use a nom de plume. Webdiary will not publish attacks on other contributors unless your real name is used.

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No CP, not moral equivalence. Just ask yourself this question. Why it is that people who are trapped in a cycle of violence find it difficult to get themselves out of that position, when common sense dictates that they leave. What do you do think happens when they cannot get away? Well some erupt in violence themselves i.e. Hamas, IRA, Other go into survival mode. Who do you suppose has the more power to inflict harm, the Israelis or Hamas? Then tell me why the people voted out Hamas.

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Mark's dichotomy between work in the local community and elections being invariably about economics, perhaps explains why the ALP let some who were interested in neither of these as much as international or refugee affairs, down so badly.

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C Parsons, congratulations - looks like you have scored... for the other team. Your, "Firstly, Jenny, I'd like to congratulate you on the most striking, needless, and clumsily gratuitous attempt at associating Hitler with Israel I have seen for some time outside the opinion pages of the Tehran Times," very nicely proves Jenny Stirling's points about "unscrupulous campaign" and fear.

In that one paragraph you have demonstrated on how to take something totally out of context, put your own spin to it, and through such insinuation, create doubt and fear (hmmm... any particular reason that you read the opinion pages of the Tehran Times?).

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Jenny Stirling: "I have to say that the people on the receiving end of both leader's (Hitler and Sharon) policies would be flat out distinguishing between the moral virtue of one form of violence as opposed to the other."

Oh, good. I'm glad you're not deliberately peddling moral equivalence or anything.

The people of Palestine have been able to distinguish between the policies of Ariel Sharon and Hamas, though.

It is being suggested that one reason Hamas took the electoral hiding it got overnight was because of its idiotic rocket attacks on Israel from Gaza resulting in retaliatory Israeli air strikes.

Mahmoud Abbas and Ariel Sharon have both been the beneficiaries of Hamas stupidity, it seems.

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C Parsons, I can assure you that there was no deliberate linking of Hitler with Israel. And you can believe that or not as you wish. But now that you have drawn attention to that situation with your post, I have to say that the people on the receiving end of both leader's policies would be flat out distinguishing between the moral virtue of one form of violence as opposed to the other.

As for Nixon, allegations about Watergate surfaced before his second election.

And where exactly did I suggest that the democractic process be usurped? I merely challenge you stated view that the peole who voted for Howard got it right. In fact, I am all for peole having the consequences of their actions. It helps them learn from their mistakes.

You know CP you reveal an enormous amount about the way you see the world when you unfairly impugn the motives of others. For example, I have amply demonstrated in various posts that I am against ideology per se and the violence that inevitably proceeds out of such thinking, and that means both right and left wing politics. It also means at any given moment, I can be unpopular in both 'camps'. It is not an easy place to be but I manage well enough, most days.

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I agree with Paul Walter and Jenny Stirlings synopses. I contend with the undeniable truth that the hip-pocket was the single most important factor in Howard's recent election victory. I do not deny Latham's loss and Howard's win. That is irrefutable. It is, however, the methods of which this end was reached that I have the highest contempt for.

Then, amongst all this treachery displayed by Howard's election campaign, was the media acquiescence that accompanied it. Latham is so spot on with his assessment of the media, its perpetual indulgence to maintain the status quo, and derail any 'alternatives' shows it is dabbling in a bit of bland neo-conservatism itself.

The picture of this thug, this child who ran away after losing, this threat to the status quo was painted as something to be feared, and it is sad to see many people have fallen for this ploy. With this speech, Margo's interview, and other, more untarnished forums that Latham has been involved with, it is clear that the media played a strong part in his decline. Leaks, anonymous sources and 'inside information' are the weapons of war within the scope of a political battlefield. Not as clear-cut as plain old arrows or bullets, but greatly more effective in a whole new way.

I read horrendous reporting by the likes of Ackerman, Price, Albrechtson, Devine et al, and from it I gather that these 'opinionators', where once were seen as merely offering a viewpoint, now fashion society viewpoints from the comfort of their seat in front of laptop.

Yes, I think Latham would have changed the political landscape, and yes, I think he would have made an interesting PM (far and away better than the one we have now), but what we are told as factual insights into a hypothetical Latham government are nothing more than moronic rumblings of a number of disenfranchised political hacks.

...and David Eastwood? I will never agree with C Parsons, as we have separate ideals, but I think that it is wrong not to allow constructive arguments between two diametrically opposed viewpoints; Voltaire said it best.

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David Eastwood: "C Parsons and Scott Brown Your dialogue is a classic example of why the system's stuffed. Entrenched tribal positions circling two corrupt ideologies playing polemic ping pong."

Okay.

Well, here's an alternative ideology, once very fashionable in wine bars, poetry readings and guitar shops across this great land, still in action and never having to worry a bit about silly old elections:

"Lawyers from Beijing are trying to break through a police cordon around a provincial activist who exposed horrifying abuses by family planning officials but who now risks a long jail term on a trumped up espionage charge."

This guy is (a) blind, (b) exposed 'health' officials directly injecting syringes filled with poison into pre-term babies up to two days prior to their due delivery date.

Nobody will get to vote on this.

The alternative activist could be shot by a firing squad.

Hope this real life example doesn't bore people too much.

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Jenny Stirling: "C Parsons, why is it said that the public is always correct in their assessment of who should win an election? Should Nixon have won after Watergate? Should people have voted for Hitler in the numbers they did? Should Peron or Sharon have won?"

Firstly, Jenny, I'd like to congratulate you on the most striking, needless, and clumsily gratuitous attempt at associating Hitler with Israel I have seen for some time outside the opinion pages of the Tehran Times.

Well done.

Secondly, Nixon resigned in disgrace after Watergate.

Finally, nobody disputes that electorates are capable of making poor choices in the democratic process.

But to suggest that would somehow justify the usurpation of government by undemocratic means is precisely the sort of logic which Hitler used to justify the 1934 Enabling Act which ushered in his dictatorship, and is comparable also to the rhetoric which Augusto Pinochet used in Chile in 1975.

And there are definite benefits to elections.

For example, Hamas (the racist paramilitary group) got thrashed in the Palestinian local government elections on the West Bank overnight, being rebuffed solidly in an election with 68 per cent voter turnout.

Now, contrast that result with the simple-minded fawning over Hamas by the lickspittle dupes of the Left "intelligentsia" in this country.

I have even seen a pinko "commentator" claim that Hamas is a "charity".

Paul Walter: "The media long since surrendered its role of journal of record."

I agree. See my comments on Alan Ramsey, below.

However, short of banning incompetents like Ramsey from owning a word processor, what can you do?

Certainly, that approach works quite well in places like North Korea and our much beloved Cuba, but apart from a few "progressive intellectuals" down at the SDP, I'm not sure if Ma and Pa on Struggle Street are quite ready for such an innovation yet.

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For Webdiarists' information, Crikey has provided subscribers with the opportunity to ask Mark Latham a question.

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Actually, the story concerning municipal elections in the Palestinian territories is a little more complex than C Parsons suggests. Certainly Hamas were not 'thrashed'.

This article in Haaertz suggests that ‘Fatah win more, but Hamas wins bigger’ – ie. that Hamas won by a large margin in 15 of the 32 largest communities, while Fatah's wins in similar size communities were by a tiny majority.

Other factors the article identifies include large-scale arrests of Hamas activists by Israel in the lead-up, which likely damaged Hamas' ability to campaign (but also may have attracted sympathy from voters).

If one recalls that Fatah activists are generally better organised at electoral campaigning, then the results can be described as anything but a "sound rebuff", either way.

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