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Agriculture - The need for changeIt is not only the global financial system that is in turmoil. A report released y the International Assessment of Agricultural Science and Technology for Development, a gathering of over 400 scientists, is recommending radical changes to the way that the world grows its food. It seems that all our systems are failing. It is time for us to make some big changes. Overpopulation is the biggest problem we face; we are now discovering we cannot feed nearly one billion people. Peak Oil, Climate Change, and a population predicted to be over nine billion – we need to act now. Agriculture - The Need for Change The way the world grows its food will have to change radically to better serve the poor and hungry if the world is to cope with a growing population and climate change while avoiding social breakdown and environmental collapse. That is the message from the report of the International Assessment of Agricultural Science and Technology for Development, a major new report by over 400 scientists which is launched today. The assessment was considered by 64 governments at an intergovernmental plenary in The authors' brief was to examine hunger, poverty, the environment and equity together. Professor Robert Watson Director of IAASTD said those on the margins are ill-served by the present system: "The incentives for science to address the issues that matter to the poor are weak... the poorest developing countries are net losers under most trade liberalization scenarios." Modern agriculture has brought significant increases in food production. But the benefits have been spread unevenly and have come at an increasingly intolerable price, paid by small-scale farmers, workers, rural communities and the environment. It says the willingness of many people to tackle the basics of combining production, social and environmental goals is marred by "contentious political and economic stances". One of the IAASTD co-chairs, Dr Hans Herren, explains: "Specifically, this refers to the many OECD member countries who are deeply opposed to any changes in trade regimes or subsidy systems. Without reforms here many poorer countries will have a very hard time... " The report has assessed that the way to meet the challenges lies in putting in place institutional, economic and legal frameworks that combine productivity with the protection and conservation of natural resources like soils, water, forests, and biodiversity while meeting production needs. In many countries, it says, food is taken for granted, and farmers and farm workers are in many cases poorly rewarded for acting as stewards of almost a third of the Earth’s land. Investment directed toward securing the public interest in agricultural science, education and training and extension to farmers has decreased at a time when it is most needed. The authors have assessed evidence across a wide range of knowledge that is rarely brought together. They conclude we have little time to lose if we are to change course. Continuing with current trends would exhaust our resources and put our children’s future in jeopardy. Professor Bob Watson, Director of IAASTD said: “To argue, as we do, that continuing to focus on production alone will undermine our agricultural capital and leave us with an increasingly degraded and divided planet is to reiterate an old message. But it is a message that has not always had resonance in some parts of the world. If those with power are now willing to hear it, then we may hope for more equitable policies that do take the interests of the poor into account.” Professor Judi Wakhungu, said “We must cooperate now, because no single institution, no single nation, no single region, can tackle this issue alone. The time is now.”
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The end of the Green Revolution
In the 1960's the world faced a food crisis - food production was not keeping up with population growth. The world reacted by spending billions in agricultural research and development. In the last twenty-five years we have taken our eyes off the ball and we have been reducing our spending in these areas and as a result we have a food crisis the likes of which the world has never seen. Nearly a billion people are short of food and many are at risk of starvation. With the world population at 6.6 billion and heading to 9 billion we need to massively increase our agriculture research and development. We need to spend less on war and more on food. That will give us real security.
More than crop science
"What is needed in agriculture is more crop science if we are to feed the world."
Yet the report of the International Assessment of Agricultural Science and Technology for Development, i.e. the report by over 400 scientists that was the focus of the article above, states:
Clearly what is needed is something much more than more production-focused crop science.
More crop science
What is needed in agriculture is more crop science if we are to feed the world. Crop science has already saved millions of lives. Greedy westerners who eat organic food should be haunted by their selfish ways. Have they no conscience?
As an aside, DDT saved millions of lives. All this damn foolish nonsense about chemicals and genetic engineering does no one any good.
Finally, the father of LSD died at his home in Basel, Switzerland this week. Basel gave the world LSD, DDT and a number of other substances. It would behoove all of you to think well of the Swiss city on the Rhine. I will be back there next week.
I first wrote to Webdiary from Basel, Switzerland and no doubt I will again very soon.
Tee hee, I wish you all a lovely weekend.
Fiona: Have a good journey, David. We look forward to hearing from you in beautiful Basel (a place that I know and love).
Plants with a mind of their own
The more science fiddles with or tries to destroy plants, the more plants fight back. Herbicide resistant weeds are one of the biggest issues facing agriculture in this country. No till farming, introduced to help preserve valuable moisture levels and stop wind erosion, has led to enormous dependence on herbicides to keep fallow paddocks free of weeds for moisture conservation. So the cost of them has trebled with increased demand. But resistance is fast becoming the biggest issue for Roundup, the most widely used chemical for weed control. That and the cost of Roundup has seen some farmers go back to tilling, ie ploughing the weeds.
But forget the science. All the science in the world is useless if there isn't any rain. Lack of rain is and will be the biggest challenge agriculture faces in this country. We farmers all know how to grow bumper crops, provided we get rain or have access to irrigation water. Higher yielding crops are not necessarily the long term answer. The more you take out of the soil, the more you have to put back, especially in this country. It is, after all, the soil that grows the crop, and its nutrients are finite. The more you have to pay for essential nutrients, the lower the overall returns. Fertilizer costs have soared this past two years.
Farmers are already skimping on nutrients such as nitrogen due to cost and a desire to reduce risk. We skimped on it last year, and just as well, as the crop was a write off due to no rain. We did not harvest a single grain. With late summer rains the paddock became a weed bed at which we were not prepared to throw any more money on herbicides. But the roos did well.
On the tablelands we know that cutting hay on a paddock year after year raises acidity levels in the soil. As the acidity increases the yields diminish and such remedies as heavy application of gypsum are very costly. We can ask too much of the soil in this country and we have for too long.
Science has delivered a lot to farmers, but sometimes it can lead to unwise management decisions. Farmers can be like experimental animals for a scientist. It might work, but sometimes it goes horribly wrong.
the soil doesn't come free
That's it in a nutshell, Jenny. Some things can be tweaked a bit, maybe even a lot if we're lucky, but the soil doesn't come free. The fertilizer costs aren't going to fall, either.
Which also means that when doing the costings on using crop "waste" for biofuels you have to factor in not only the cost of trucking the residue to the processor, but also trucking the extra fertilizer back to the farm. I wonder if they do that.
The trash
I doubt it, Mark. And these days the trash that used to go back as organic matter into the soil is being seen as a marketable product. We have seen so much damage to soils in our area it is not surprising that the area needed now to support a family has trebled in the past fifteen years to around seven thousand acres, and even then you are pushing it if you are relying on range-fed beef as we are.
But it has not only been soil depletion. Returns for product have remained static for years, while costs have skyrocketed. The farmer is, as usual, the vicitm of factors and market forces beyond the farm gate.
Farmers are the guardians of the natural landscape.
This opinion piece is in the Australian by Julian Cribb who is an adjunct professor of science communication at the University of Technology, Sydney and editor of www.sciencealert.com.au.
Julian Cribb points to the sorry state of modern agriculture. Globalisation of the food trade is slowly destroying the planet and pricing many in the developing world out of the food market. This should encourage all of us to buy local and think more about what what we put on our plates.
Rich countries have destroyed the agriculture of poor countries.
With many organisations calling for a reform of world agricultural policy, it is time for all national governments to rethink their policies. The rich are distorting world markets and millions of people worldwide are paying a terrible price.
Cattle and Cars
More than one third of the world's grain harvest is used to feed livestock. Another source puts it at between 32% & 33%, with 10% or 11% for other non-food uses (Feed versus Food - Table 4). That means not much more than half of global grain production is used as food.
In olden days, we wouldn't have dreamt of feeding grain to cattle or sheep, though they would have scored some in supplementary or drought feed. Unfortunately, Table 4 above only goes back to the mid 70's, and by then the feedlots had really taken off. I'd like to see the figures for the industrial countries going back to WW2, and broken down by country. My guess is that originally in America & Europe there was more grain fed the further north, then in the fifties the feedlots take off, first in the USA, then everywhere, and feeding grain takes off as well. Here, the feedlots were getting started in the late '60s early '70s - but our contribution would still be mainly food, rather than feed. Premium wheat is too valuable to use as stock feed.
Another table I'd like to see would be comparing the greenhouse gas efficiency of feedlot and pasture-fed beef. Feedlot may well be the winner - particularly if you put it under a dome and burn the methane for energy.
Evan Hadkins had it right when he said that "the problem is a social/political one". There is, for a while at least, plenty of land to feed us all. Unless we fix the distribution problem, increased production, whether via GM of otherwise, will just go to feed cattle and cars.
PS: Table 4 above is based on Bruinsma 2003. It's notable that only five years ago, biofuels just don't feature at all.
Cattle on feedlots
And last night unless I heard wrong Mark it was stated that the US has the largest ever number of stock on feedlots at the moment. Here the feedlots have been standing back due to the high price of grain but not it would seem in the US. And we all know the return on a tonne of grain fed to cattle is abysmal. Singer and Mason did the figures on this some twenty odd years ago in their book Animal Factories. They also pointed out that 50% of the antibiotics used in the US was as prophylactics in the feedstuffs of intensively farmed animals and I know from experience the use of antibiotics was just as extensive out here. And we wonder why we have antibiotic resistance bacteria.
I am glad I gave up eating meat over twenty years ago, though I did so for ethical reasons at the time, not health. But it was the right call in terms of health too I think.
Brazil is to produce diesel from sugarcane.
Brazilian sugarcane farmers will soon be producing diesel from sugarcane. Australian mining uses millions of litres of diesel a month - one of the reasons we have such a huge trade deficit.
In Australia rather that putting money into research we are paying $100,000 for farmers to leave the sugar industry.
I wonder why CNH closed its plant in Bundaberg and moved to Brazil. Could it be something to do with the Howard government paying our cane farmers to leave the industry, while Brazil was turning sugarcane into diesel?
More globalisation will save the world?
From this morning's editorial in The Australian. I am sure the 100 million people who are now at risk of starvation are happy to hear that all is OK, increased prosperity is going to feed them. They don't have to have as many children because they are going to have a superannuation payout, history suggests all will be OK. Tell that to the Easter Islanders.
I thought it was the Australian Democrats that believed in fairies at the bottom of the garden.
Carbon farming is easier than a moon landing.
It seems the world is going to build coal fired power stations regardless of the warnings on ocean acidity or climate change. Perhaps the only way to safely counteract the enormous amount of C02 pollution is carbon farming.
Rather than spending a fortune on carbon capture at the source of pollution maybe the answer is to change our farming techniques to improve soil carbon levels. We should do more research into carbon farming - maybe we could turn our deserts into carbon sinks. If we could develop ways of capturing more carbon than we produce, we could continue with use of coal after all.
This could be a win win for all the coal miners, the farmers and the planet.
Looking at totally different farming practices.
Should we eat less meat?
Most of us would like to think we live a moral life, a life that does not cause harm to others or the planet. It is time we put thought into the things we eat and the effect it has on the rest of the world.
I agree totally John
Most of us would like to think we live a moral life, a life that does not cause harm to others or the planet. It is time we put thought into the things we eat and the effect it has on the rest of the world.
John, I agree totally and will say that once one has made the move to give up meat, one wonders how on earth one ever ate it in the first place. Everyone should visit a farm, look into the eyes of the animals waiting to be trucked to the slaughterhouse, and then follow those animals to see how they are treated and how they die. Then decide if they want to continue eating those same animals.
But since people do like their meat, then maybe they could cut down. For a start it is not healthy to eat red meat every day due to the bowel cancer risk. And it is certainly poor economics to feed intensive pigs on all that grain only to produce a pork chop with an inch of fat which the cook then trims.
As for changing farm practices, they have changed a lot in the past couple of decades. Australia has a reputation for efficiency in its farm sector though of course there are bad farmers as well. But in the end if you don't have rain then even the best farming practices won't save you. And rain is what is again desperately needed all over the eastern wheat belt. So much is hanging on this and people are very worried. The La Nina is continue to weaken and chances of above average rain this winter are diminishing by the day. Yet I see in Sydney and on the Central Coast is has been pouring, yet again. Most of which I guess is going down the drain. While Sydney complains of a long run of wet weather we are having day after day of warm dry sunny weather west of the ranges. Not a good sign at all.
I think the world food situation is going to get very dire indeed.
Native pastures are more drought tolerant but productivity from them from grazing stock is not high. Many of the introduced improved pastures have higher carrying capacity but are fairly dependant on decent rainfall. We let our place go back to native pastures, but had to take an almost 30 percent cut in productivity which essentially means the property does little more than cover its fixed costs and necessary maintainence, all two thousand odd acres of it. I would not like to be dependant on it for a living, that is for sure. You need at least seven thousand acres now in our area for that, and even that is becoming marginal due to drought. So most families have quit over the past ten years. It is sad to see a community slowly die. It is happening all over the western division.
No water or arable land, no food
John: “We are consuming more food than we are producing. If we continue to carry on as we have in the past how do we expect to be able to feed a growing world population? The future looks bleak for the 100 million or so people who cannot afford a decent meal. Why aren't we seeing the same sort of reaction we saw to the Indonesian tsunami? This is something we can do something about especially in Australia. We should be helping our farmers to produce more and we should be bringing more agricultural land into production. We should also be producing food rather than luxury crops such as vineyards. Until the world is able to feed its population we should put food production at the top of our nations priorities.”
John, how do you grow more food on dying land and diminishing water supplies? Most vineyards are constructed on grazing land. Grazing is a stupid way to produce food as you produce more green houses gases, decimate the soil and have to use about 100 times more land to produce the same amount of toxic food as you would with growing food. The amount of usable agricultural land is dropping as it is being depleted at a growing rate from chemical fertilisation, over grazing, over cropping, hormone and antibiotic poisoning, whilst water available disappears. Haven't you noticed the Snowy Mountains Scheme is almost empty and can’t release any water as they have none for generating power or irrigation?
I think the future looks bleak for more than 2 billion people, as the food crisis will only get worse until a balance is established between the land’s ability to produce, human population, ideologically driven greed and egocentricity. It's well within the realms of possibility that the majority of the worlds cities will collapse as energy and food become scarce, after all cities rely 100% upon rural industries for survival. Without a viable rural culture to supply cities, they have no other option than to die and that scenario for Australia is strong possibility.
We have to remember John, it's the ideologically driven religious who are the main supporters of constant population and economic growth at the expense of the natural world as they believe their mythical god is in charge and will save them no matter what they do. Sadly for the world, the realty is light years away from their god delusions.
We are consuming more food than it has been producing.
We are consuming more food than we are producing. If we continue to carry on as we have in the past how do we expect to be able to feed a growing world population? The future looks bleak for the 100 million or so people who cannot afford a decent meal. Why aren't we seeing the same sort of reaction we saw to the Indonesian tsunami? This is something we can do something about especially in Australia. We should be helping our farmers to produce more and we should be bringing more agricultural land into production. We should also be producing food rather than luxury crops such as vineyards. Until the world is able to feed its population we should put food production at the top of our nation’s priorities.
Gamblers are creating havoc on the grain markets.
It's not only Wall Street that is being affected by gamblers; it seems the farmers are also suffering through people who want to make money by gambling on what the grain price might be. We need to overhaul all these systems.
Dead biodiversity
John Pratt: “We need to rethink our stance on genetically modified crops. To provide enough food, at the right price, to a hungry market, we will have to use all the technologies available to us."
John, whilst I admire your determination, nothing can be done about the future chaos and collapse. GE food is just the same as nuclear, lead and plastics: in the end they all come back to haunt us and destroy the planet. Just like all plants, GE foods need water, good soil and proper growing conditions. We are already aware of what chemical fertiliser has done to the ability of soil to rejuvenate, condition itself and support life. With GE foods you have to destroy the biodiversity for the crops to grow. This is the major problem faced worldwide: we have committed biodiversity genocide and the ecology has collapsed, which means food plants, especially imported and manipulated ones, are trying to be grown in dead soil.
How do you grow things without water and biodiversity, which is required for pollination, soil rejuvenation and sustainability? It's not only illogical but irrational, and no matter how caring and feel good we want to be, it's painfully obvious that a large number of the human population will not survive the next 5-10 years.
What 99% of the population don't seem to be able to get their head around is that the problems are not in the future. We have come to the end of the road for our society now, not tomorrow but now. To try and make out otherwise is blind lunacy. There are so many crises in agriculture worldwide. They just can't be fixed whilst the world is run on economic growth, population explosion and wealth creation. But the elite of the world continue with their heads firmly buried up to their armpits in egocentric verbal effluent, so nothing is done other than feather the elitists nests.
Read the outcome of 2020 and you will see that nothing has been put forward which will address the agricultural problems, nor the water, salinity and biodiversity problems, nor the heavily overpopulated state of this country, let alone the world.
Northern Land and Water Task Force reorganised.
The North of Australia has huge potential to increase Australia's agricultural output. I hope the importance of this Task Force is appreciated. We must make the North more productive, at the same time protecting the environment. We cannot afford to make the same mistakes as we have made in the South.
Time to rethink our attitude to genetically modified crops.
We need to rethink our stance on genetically modified crops. To provide enough food, at the right price, to a hungry market, we will have to use all the technologies available to us.
Do We John ?
John Pratt: "We need to rethink our stance on genetically modified crops. To provide enough food, at the right price, to a hungry market, we will have to use all the technologies available to us."
Do we John ?
"Exposed: The Great GM Crops Myth"
"Genetic modification actually cuts the productivity of crops, an authoritative new study shows, undermining repeated claims that a switch to the controversial technology is needed to solve the growing world food crisis.
The study - carried out over the past three years at the University of Kansas in the US grain belt - has found that GM soya produces about 10 per cent less food than its conventional equivalent, contradicting assertions by advocates of the technology that it increases yields." ......cont'd .
Australia can derive substantial benefit from GM crops.
Simon, scientific papers seem to indicate that there would be productivity gains as well as less use of insecticide and fertilizers.
31 March 2008:
I guess it depends on who is paying for the science.
Just Wondering ... John
John: "I guess it depends on who is paying for the science."
... seems then, you actually have a pretty poor opinion of "science"?
How can you be so sure your (science is) "right"? ...Might not a bit of old fashioned "prudence" be advantageous ?
Just wondering ....
Genes for drought tolerance.
Simon, it is easy to ask for prudence while you have a full belly. If on the other hand you are having trouble feeding your kids you might say forget prudence, use what ever technology you have to stop my kids from starving.
GM crops have been around for long enough for us to determine risk and they are already producing a lot of the world's food.
It is a bit like global warming there will always be naysayers.
I trust science when the majority of scientists agree.
If we don't act now we are all guilty of mass murder.
We don't get accused of mass murder every day. But if we fail to act urgently and millions die as a result that is just what we are guily of.
Now that the 2020 Summit is over a few big ideas that were missing.
We must urgently act to increase our agricultural output to help feed a starving world.
Our agricultural industry is short of labour. We should call on all Australians to help by volunteering our time or money to help farmers to be more productive.
We should allow people of the South Pacific to come to Australia on working visas to increase the agricultural workforce.
We should urgently look at making our land more productive especially in the high rainfall areas of the north.
We should give interest free loans not payable for 5 years or so to experienced farmers who are willing to move to the north to set up farms of all types in the north.
We should fund much more research into areas where we can be more productive and encourage people to move into these areas with tax incentives and removal expenses.
We must make sure that if we are to produce ethanol it comes from farm waste, such as bananna stems, and other waste products, not edible crops.
We should not use agricultural land for growing crops solely for ethanol. Food first then ethanol with the waste.
We are a big continent and we can produce more food even if we will be suffering from the effects of climate change.
We must treat all this with the urgency it demands.
If it was your child starving how urgent would you make it?
We must mobilise the nation just as we would if we were at war.
Improving agriculture is the key.
Improving agriculture skills and making it financially worthwhile for farmers to produce food is the answer to the world food crisis. Australia has the skills to teach the developing world.
Agreed
Evan, I agree.
Recently I saw an article (from back in 2007) about the plan for urban agriculture in the form of a skyscraper in Manhattan using urban green waste and recycled water to grow crops. They call it skyfarming. I thought, "No way; the real estate is too expensive and the market will see that asset (the skyscraper) put to another use with better returns." But, perhaps there is something in the idea at a smaller scale. Think about how much public land is wasted. Think about road reserves, railway reserves, storm water reserves, and so on. Think "allotment schemes."
'Guerrilla Garderners'
There was an article in The Age the other day about an interesting new developing growing out of the London urban jungle - Shock gardening troops attack urban eyesores:
Other guerilla units
A lovely piece, Craig, though I suspect I am too much of a dormouse to be prepared to venture out in the wee small hours armed with my spade.
I wonder whether the guerilla gardeners of Europe find themselves in conflict with other, non-police, forces? I'm sure they do, but here is a story about a couple of bands of guerillas that I've just received from my mother in Canberra:
Talking of possums, ethanol and food waste
Fiona, your mother's story reminds me of the time my father wanted to stop the possums raiding the garbage bin. They would knock off the lid in the night on garbage days and rat thought the contents, which in those days had all sorts of tit bits. So he set up a flash camera to go off as soon as the lid was disturbed, hoping that would be a terrifying deterrent in future. There was an awful crash, and with great glee father headed off to get the film developed, and there sure enough was a terrified face, not of the possum however, but of the local garbo. Dad kept a low profile for awhile after that, but come Christmas, felt compelled to make amends of the liquid kind.
Now, if what we saw last night is true, ie that to fill up a 4 wheel drive with ethanol involves the processing of enough corn to feed one person for a year, then it is not hard to see why we are going to have one helluva food crisis.
Australia may be able to do more with rice production in Northern Australia, though past efforts in the NT have had big problems, eg wild geese. Rice production on the Murray is in terminal decline. Buying back water allocations is going to accelerate that, but if the north could be brought on line more then Australia could make a big contribution to world rice stocks.
In the meantime food waste must be eliminated, starting in our own homes. All that stuff we sometimes buy, only to never use and ultimately throw out once past use by date or when the weevils get into it, should be left out of the shopping basket. I am taking pride in running the pantry down to a few basics. Whether that will help any of those increasing numbers of hungry people around the world is unknowable, but it can't hurt.
And you don't need a big veggie garden. One tomato plant in a pot will produce volumes as will a spinach plant planted next to the tap where it can get a drink every time you turn the tap on. Try it.
Social
I am pleased to see the tenor of the discussion - that the problem is a social/political one.
There is easily enough land to feed people, with existing technology. My problem is doing something big enough, fast enough. My hope lies in lots of small experiments that will be able to link up when needed (eg the Global Ecovillages Network). I think such things that tend to function below the radar are our most realistic hope.
Other views?
Toward a true Universal Declaration?
This December will be the 60th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. As the declaration is about the rights of our "fellow global villagers", perhaps we could each show our interest in the unity of our human family and sign on to it individually.
World Federalism Human Unionism
John (agreeing) and Alan, world federalism may seem an unexpected idea but that is only because we live in the age of nationalism. Humans have spent millennia passing through various unsatisfactory systems of government and the idea that we are somehow naturally and perpetually divided into competing sovereign states is just one more passing fad that will eventually be exposed as just as foolish as the idea we are naturally and perpetually divided into competing tribal groups that must eternally war.
The world federalist movement has not always been small either, although now it is small and splintered. Dr. Joseph Baratta’s The Politics of World Federation provides an excellent summary of the rise and fall of the world federalist movement in theUSA .
The main practical problem facing the world federalists has been the idea that the whole world will suddenly change and agree simultaneously to form a world federation. Progress beyond the current system of competing states, if it is to happen, will most likely be gradual and piecemeal. If gradual progress to a transnational political system seems unlikely just think of the EU and how unlikely its gradual progress to its current size and degree of organization appeared 60 years ago.
That is why I count myself as principally a supporter of projects like the Human Union Movement. This is a call for a Human Union,something like the EU, but on a human rather than European scale, and somethingthat can start with as few as one country issuing a Declaration that it is ready to negotiate to form a Human Union and then slowly evolve from there. If one country makes a Human Union Declaration it is a very practical step to beginning a process that will solve many problems. Just as the first small and seemingly insignificant steps that began the EU were the first steps to solving many problems.
The crucial difference between projects like the Human Union or World Federation on the one hand and the UN on the other is that the UN requires no common political values or standards so that the worst dictatorship can be a member in equal standing with the most benign democracy. A World Federation requires all to accept some set of common values simultaneously. A Human Union sets up a process of organic evolution of a political system that can practise and generate common political values.
I think a world federation is the only future.
Thanks for that Lyndon, I think the EU is an excellent example of what can be achieved. Australia and New Zealand would be a logical first step, for us.
It is a good point you make when you distinguish between the UN and a federation of nations that would agree to certain ground rules. Human rights, democracy and an a commitment to international law should be a prerequisite to joining the federation, economic success and free trade would be incentives for countries to join. Eventually we would all unite. Why not?
Commonwealth: Economics for a crowded planet.
The future certainly does depend on that yes.
If ever humans needed faith it is now. We need faith in our abilities.
Don't fall into the trap of saying we do not have the ability!
It could be argued that we have achieved everything we have today by cooperation. We now need to cooperate on a global scale - this is the next step in the human story.
Pope calls for binding international rules.
You do not have to be a Catholic to agree with the Pope on this. The world is crying out for global governance.
A shit a day helps keep global warming (and hunger) away .
When I was a kid I asked my Dad what the pipe on the side of our house was for? He said it was a "stink pipe" which released gases from the sewer, otherwise the sewer would blow up.
I remember as teenagers we used to light our own farts with hilarious results.
My wife informs that inChina many farms use dung processors to create energy.
Google brings up some interesting links, such as:
This Renewable Energy is Bullshit
Nano-Biotechnology
We are going to need a smor- gas-bord of energy resources; why can't we have human crap processors in blocks of home units and offices and cow pat processors on farms and such?
Every bit helps and wouldn't it be wonderful to know that: a shit a day helps keep global warming away, and minimise our dependence on oil and the need to convert food supplies to biofuel.
Surely residential and office blocks could supply all their energy needs combining solar, wind and crap machines.
Our politicians (most full of crap anyway) could possibily keep all of the ACT in energy for decades.
GWB and buddies could do same for all ofAmerica . At least those arseholes would not be completely useless.
Are we researching this stuff inAustralia ?
"Truly we reap what we sow."
From an article in the UK farming magazine Practical Farm Ideas.
The editor of the magazine Practical Farm Ideas was interviewed by Philip Adams on Radio National this afternoon.
The world needs more Richard Bransons
You are right Alan, we could do with more Richard Bransons.
Rational logic seems dead
The posts so far are a good sign as to how high the probability of turning things around is placed, and that is no probability at all. When all sides stick to their failing ideologies with a vengeance, only disaster looms ahead. You will never get consensus from those programmed in egocentric ideology, they are just stubborn brick walls of ignorance. Globalisation is one of the biggest problems, as it views everything as being equal and belonging to all, no matter where or what. It also puts control of the world's commodities into the hands of a very small number of companies, which is the most negative approach to the future you can find. Turning crops into ethanol is not the problem for food at the moment, food production is dropping dramatically as broad acre farming collapses, especially when using introduced crops and grazing animals. We have to work with nature and not against it. Currently we are trying to push an overladen barrow with square wheels up a mountain, with a broken leg. Sanity must prevail and as you currently can't find any sanity around the world, then it's up to each country, state and community to take the steps necessary for survival.
That would mean getting rid of those things which are causing the problems and replacing them with things which will reverse the situation and sustain us and nature. To achieve a goal like that, we have to take drastic action and the longer it's left the harder it will become, as nature is overrunning us now with its fight to survive. No matter what anyone wants to think or believe, we have no choice: we either change or die as a society and maybe as a species, along with the millions of species we have destroyed and continue to destroy. I just find it incredible how people still cling to these proven, failed ideological approaches.
Just like god, current political and social ideologies never have the outcomes those enslaved to them expect. If you look at history, just like a belief in god, all ideologies always have the opposite outcomes for everyonel, even the elite in the end, meet their end.
Justice, peace, and a sustainable prosperity.
It is time for the human race to come of age. We have tried many forms of government, we have seen the collapse of Communism, and we are most likely witnessing the collapse of capitalism. We can fight each other over the crumbs or we can enter a new age of cooperation.
Everything we do at a local level affects the globe. The crops we plant, the food we eat, the cars we drive, all add to the current global picture. It is time to use our much acclaimed intelligence and work towards global cooperation.
The World Federation Movement has done a lot of the ground work and needs to have the support of all our leaders . To avoid food, energy and water wars we must learn to cooperate or will perish. Nations and religions are all human constructs. We have created them and we can recreate them.
Where
John Pratt, "The World Federalist Movement". Where do you find these these things? I had a look at their website and they are as nutty as the Greens and probably have the same number of members.
World Federalist Movement. United we stand divided we fall.
Alan, I thought the World Federalist Movement would stir up a hornets nest. Too many positive ideas.
If we have a global problem we need to act globally. Remember, "United we stand divided we fall."
Hornets nest
John, too many positive ideas, maybe but what we need are practical ideas and pollies are not capable of doing that. Neither are groups like The World Federalist Movement.
Fiona: Whom, then, would you suggest, Alan Curran?
Who would I use?
Fiona, I would use people from the business world like Richard Branson. If Branson was in charge of transport in Australia we would have a fast train to every capital city within five years and running at a profit. He would sort out the transport mess in NSW within 12 months, and a lot of union hacks will be on the dole where they should be. Of course we could not afford to pay him, so we will have to put up with the dills we have.
We have forgotten the farmers.
Because of poor prices paid for agricultural products and long duration of drought farm labour has moved to the mining industry. We have not paid our farmers and they have left in droves. How can we produce the agricultural products the world desperately needs if we are short over 100,000 agricultural jobs?
The die is cast
John Pratt: "All the nay sayers on peak oil, climate change, overpopulation, and the food crisis must be getting some idea of the problems we are now facing."
Isn't the present situation exactly what you wanted? I mean, it's you complaining daily about overpopulation, energy not being expensive enough (asking for higher taxes minus subsidies) and all that. A culling of world population is what I thought all greenie types have been asking for. You should be celebrating. Or are you now just getting cold feet?
Of course you now expect American farmers (and Australians no doubt) to pay all the costs, and charge less than break even for the product. No country is going to enforce this against their own citizens. Something along these lines would begin the greatest era of black-market robber capitalism ever seen (not to mention total power politics).
Could of course go down the Chavez route and nationalize the farms (might even find somebody who knows something about farming) - great oil prices; pity the shelves are empty - and guess who their biggest food and agriculture supplier is? The oil tap going off this week, is it?
The world's biggest problem (well, some nations') is overpopulation. This problem will be sorted out one way or the other; irrespective of systems of commerce. The final result isn't going to be pretty, and it has never been pretty.
I guarantee that in about five years the people now demanding carbon taxes will be heading for the hills with a hail of bullets running a close second.
That's just ridiculous
Paul Morrella, what will you do when your prediction proves wrong and Webdiarists come wanting you to fulfil your guarantee in about five years? Promise to stop making silly predictions?