Hi. Yasir Assam emailed me this piece, his debut for Webdiary. "I'm a freelance software developer living northern NSW," he wrote. "'m British, of Iraqi origin and a permanent resident. I'm not a professional writer, commentator, intellectual, academic or otherwise "qualified" to write serious articles, but I hope that doesn't make my piece less worthy of consideration." Certainly not!
Lest we forget Iraq
by Yasir Assam
When you vote in the coming election, how much will morality play when you make your choice?
I hear a lot about who’s better at managing tax, employment, health, education and so on. I refer to these as “practical” issues, every day issues that affect “me” the average voter, and in deciding which party is better at dealing with them, the question is largely one of self-interest.
Self-interest is fine, but what about morality? What about the issues that don’t necessarily affect me or my family directly? The assault on civil liberties and due legal process, the treatment of asylum seekers and refugees, the treatment of Indigenous Australians, the effect that global warming will have on future generations (especially the poor abroad) are just some of the moral issues we face. I concede that to some extent all election issues have a moral content, but these latter ones have a much stronger moral flavour than the practical ones I mentioned earlier. I’d like to focus on one moral issue, though the others are no less important.
Australia’s 2003 invasion and subsequent occupation of Iraq was a clear act of unprovoked aggression against a country that posed no imminent threat to Australia or the US. According to recent estimates, 1.2 million Iraqis have met violent deaths since the invasion. We were told it was for WMDs, terrorism and democracy, but it’s clear the main reason for invading is a 3 letter word beginning with O and ending in L, as Alan Greenspan, General Abizaid and Brendan Nelson have admitted. And if their admissions aren’t convincing enough, consider the Iraq Oil Laws which the US have been keen to push through, allowing foreign companies to reap large profits from the massive, high quality, easily extractable and proven oil reserves.
Iraq is often portrayed as a “mess” in the media, implying (by some) that though the cause was noble, the execution was flawed. In other words, we had the moral right to invade, it’s just that those guys (Bush et. al.) were incompetent. But this argument evades the central fact: the invaders knowingly invaded a defenceless nation, without the consent of its people, in order to take control of its resources, leaving death and destruction in their wake. It is the supreme war crime.
What sort of morals does a government have, who are willing to invade a nation and kill countless people in order to control its resources? More importantly, are you willing to vote for them, even if you think their policies benefit you more than those of some other parties?
During the Nuremberg Trials, the Chief American Prosecutor Robert H. Jackson said:
To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole’, where the ‘accumulated evil of the whole’ includes the 1.2 million dead and 4.2 million displaced.
He also said:
We must never forget that the record on which we judge these defendants is the record on which history will judge us tomorrow. To pass these defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our own lips as well’ (my emphasis).
These words were echoed recently by another chief prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials, Benjamin Ferencz, who in 2006 (whilst Saddam was on trial), said that Bush should also stand trial for the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Although Australia’s presence in Iraq is minuscule compared with the US, our presence there gives substantial moral support and credibility to the US, and to an extent greater than its share of troops, Australia bears moral responsibility for the crime.
Let’s take a hypothetical situation. Suppose you were a parent able to pick which head teacher your school employed. You find a candidate: he’s a sharp operator, a real whiz. He has a great record from other schools: fantastic grades. But it turns out he’s a serial killer – he kills old ladies. He never murders children – your kids are safe – but he’s unrepentant and likely to kill again. Even though your kids are safe and assured fantastic grades under him, would you employ him, knowing he’s a killer?
Some may think the analogy outlandish or even offensive, but isn’t 1.2 million dead a tad more offensive? That’s murder on an unimaginable scale, and our leaders (with our consent) have participated in it lock, stock and barrel. What’s more, there’s every indication they’ll do the same again (Iran?).
In fact, my analogy doesn’t go far enough: the war in Iraq has undoubtedly increased the threat of terrorism to the very populations (e.g. Australia’s) it was claimed to protect. It has also sent a clear message to the rest of the world that the rules of international law and justice are irrelevant, that the strongest will invade the weakest at will. This unspoken yet clear message will undoubtedly lead to greater tensions internationally and the increase of nuclear proliferation: grim consequences for all of us.
They are war criminals, and whatever good they may (or may not) have done domestically does not lessen the severity of their crime. If we vote for them for any reason, we also share in that crime.
My point is, this one moral issue (and there others) trumps all the practical ones. Let’s assume for the sake of argument that the present government really is better at managing the economy than anyone else, we must still not allow these murderous criminals to rule over us and commit crimes in our names. I for one would rather suffer the mother of all recessions than have my leaders spill innocent blood in my name. That’s what taking a moral stand means to me.
The vote was hard-won by our heroic forebears. Let’s not squander our inheritance. Think less what your country can do for you, and more on what its leaders will likely do unto others less fortunate than ourselves.
All should be equal before the law.
Does this mean the NATO use of aerial bombing is a war crime?
Are the soldiers involved in the killing of civilians going to be charged with war crimes?
If international law is to be applied to anyone all should be equal before the law.
Turks surge into Iraq.
Turkey has sent ground troops into Iraq as an escalation of their offensive against PKK guerrillas.
How much say did Iraq have in the matter?
On the surge:
Michael Kinsley.
Ali al-Fadhily and Dahr Jamail.
How much is it costing?
Money well, spent, and to be spent. Can't help thinking it could have been much better spent.
Abacus Diabolus
Eliot, I wouldn't dream of belittling Mr Ahmed Hassan Mohammed (well, certainly not to the extent that you belittle Mamdouh Habib).
Assuming he's not another Curveball, I've simply underlined some dissonances between his testimony (as sparingly reported) and the construction that you've placed upon it.
Frankly I wouldn't be surprised at anything that emerged in the course of legal proceedings in which the presumption of innocence was forfeit, and the chief defendant was already the proverbial dead man walking.
It might help the discussion if you were to address those 'dissonances' I've identified, rather than flailing incomprehensibly from Mamdouh Habib to Kurds and Shiites.
Then again, how you comment is your own affair.
Willie Nelson: Bring The Troops Home, Put Them On The Borders?
Ami Goodman and Juan Gonzalez at DemocracyNow! spends an hour fawning over country star Willie Nelson. Willie's all for Farm Aid, biodiesel, outlaw country music, the dropping of marijuana laws and the impeachment of George Bush.
It all sounds pretty good (and the show is entertaining) until he tells the audience that the troops should come home from Iraq and go straight to the Mexican and Canadian borders, to guard America's integrity.... Hoowwee, Wiillee's a boorderline whaackooo!!!
Advocatus Diabolus
Jacob, I've been thinking about the moral equivalence of 'lawful killing' with that of 'unlawful' killing.
Would an unlawful insurrection by the Shiites against Saddam be morally equivalent in its consequences, if innocent people died, compared to the lawful destruction of Shiite and Kurdish communities by Saddam, where the intended victims were innocent?
If I was being Advocatus Diabolus for Saddam, I'd certainly pursue the 'equivalence' line. It worked for Stalin.
Intentions.
A fine post Jacob. As to intended or unintended victims, if a state engages in acts of or a war of aggression, that is a matter of choice and will result in them committing unlawful killing. I suggest that disqualifies them from making distinctions between intended and unintended victims. Of course demonising their opponent is useful in trying to justify their illegal actions and fiendish devices such as supposed human shredding machines can be useful in this and a diversion from their own fiendish, and, in the examples I previously gave, far more effective devices.
Now for a reminder that some are not the victims of unprovoked actions. Even of they like to think they are.
Gideon Levy - The Lights Have Been Turned Off.
Annoying. A torture victim who can still speak for himself
Mr Ahmed Hassan Mohammed has seen what's at the bottom of the shredding machine - blood, hair and tissue.
I see no reason to belittle him - even if he hasn't been able to sell his story to the Nine Network for a million bucks.
As for Habib, you can see from the link I provided, he does lots of talking for himself.
But you are correct. You cannot compare the efficiency of one shredding machine in Abu Ghraib (or wherever) with the deliberate gassing of entire villages.
As for the "branch of military 'science' that aims to predict levels of civilian casualties" from bombing, does that distinguish between unintended casualties on the one hand?
And the deliberate targetting of large populations of civilians, as in Saddam's Anfal genocide, on the other?
Missed opportunity
So now you want to talk about Habib, do you Eliot? A pity, because we just might have got to the bottom of that human-shredder matter.
Bob, you wouldn't be alone in drawing parallels between conventional weapons of war and the human-shredder. That is, assuming such a thing existed, about which I'm quite sceptical.
The central claim that cannot be substantiated is that such a thing was used as more or less a 'procedural' method for dispatching opponents of the regime on a day-to-day basis. The vignette in the news report, in which Eliot puts such store, proves nothing of the sort, of course; rather, it begs more questions than it answers.
As an instrument of terror, however, the human-shredding machine might have been quite effective, so it's odd that its purported use was not more widely known (there being, to my knowledge, only two eye-witness accounts of its use). One may also wonder how such horrors only became known around 2003, since the eye-witness testimony at Saddam's trial specifically places the alleged incident in 1982.
But Bob, your comparison with conventional weapons of war falls down, somewhat, when one considers that shredding a human being is an absolutely deliberative act perpetrated against an identifiable victim; whereas carpet bombing, say, a tract of tribal land in Afghanistan will almost certainly yield 'unintended' victims, who yet will conveniently remain anonymous - unless one actually does the body-counts, which as it happens "we don't do".
There's a branch of military 'science' that aims to predict levels of civilian casualties, given defined assumptions about the kind of weaponry 'delivered', the type of terrain, population density, etc. Insert these assumptions into the appropriate formulae and - presto! - all things being equal, you will have a useful estimate of the quantity of collateral damage you can reasonably expect. (We don't dwell on this area of scholarly study, because it would tend to make a nonsense of politicians' earnest prating about 'surgical' bombing/warfare.)
Still, even armed with such godlike knowledge, you are nevertheless statistically absolved of culpability for any given fatality, because you cannot predict just who will be on the business end of any particular bomb you might drop on any particular target zone. Any lingering vestiges of self-doubt are instantly neutralised with an agonised recitation of the mantra: "War is Hell."
What Mamdouh Habib saw in Egypt
I think the eye-witness testimony of Mr Ahmed Hassan Mohammed, which you have most thoughtfully provided, is at least as credible if not more so, than anything said by, for example, Mamdouh Habib.
And we have no trouble believing that, do we?
What could be more efficient ?
Or for that matter, what could be more efficient than chemical weapons, including mustard gas and the nerve agent GB, or Sarin tucked away nice and neat in canisters beneath the wings of specially modified MIG Twenty Fives?
The shredding machine was probably just a toy for Uday to help him calm the jittery nerves of reluctant nurses and kindy teachers on Valentine's Day.
In between handing out oil trading allocations to visiting foreign admirers from the anti-Sanctions arm of the peace movement.
A question of efficiency.
Jacob, on the matter of the alleged human shredding, perhaps some comparisons are in order. How effective would this alleged machine be to an American human shredding machine, for example, a B 52 bomber?
Or what of other forms of human destruction such as cluster bombs, used by the US and others, which can tear apart bodies after hostilities have ceased? Children are often victims of these diabolical devices.
Perhaps consideration to much slower methods of destroying bodies, such as the lingering effects of DU munitions. Or chemicals such as Agent Orange. Decade upon decade of human destruction possible with those.
Human-shredding-machine hysteria
Following from Eliot Ramsey's robust retort ("Finally After Two Years") concerning the human-shredding-machine hysteria I'd raised on the Peak Coal thread, I thought it would be best to carry on the discussion on this thread.
I'm guessing Eliot had been "waiting for over two years" since the appearance of the article he cited.
In that article, Mr Ahmed Hassan Mohammed was relating what he allegedly saw upon being "seized and tortured after a 1982 attempt on [Saddam's] life in the Shiite Muslim town of Dujail."
Thus I'm further guessing that Mr Hassan is recollecting events that occurred over twenty years prior to his testimony, which was in a trial setting in which...
More than twenty years prior, he had allegedly seen "a grinder with blood coming out of it and human hair underneath."
(I have a 'grinder' in my kitchen, but would be hard pressed to pass a human being through it, in the event I'd even want to.)
The originator of the human-shredding machine story, Ann Clwyd in the Spectator, said that "male prisoners were dropped into the machine 'designed for shredding plastic' and their minced remains packed into plastic bags before being used as 'fish food'."
So, was this machine something like a common meat-grinder, OR a machine purpose-designed for shredding plastic in industrial applications? Or what?
I'd be most interested in Eliot's views on this, and we really should get to the bottom of it.
Looking to the future...
Maybe the USA and all the others should just get out of Iraq. You know, just let them sort it out amongst themselves. And Afghanistan, too.
Once some new regime is in place in each country, presumably having replaced the elected, western backed regimes currently there in "spontaneous uprisings", we could just pay the new governments hefty reparations and win their affections that way.
Maybe make payments through the Bank of Tehran? Or the Bin Laden Group's holding company?
They have contacts in the region.
If the Kurds don't fit into the picture and get massacred all over again, they'll take it on the chin.
It wouldn't be the first time. And when have the Kurds ever fitted into anyone's picture.
Joseph Stalin had his Kurds exterminated, drawing on his personal experiences with them while Lenin's 'Commissar of Nationalities'.
Anyway, the USA could just adopt the Chinese and North Korean model when dealing with countries in the region.
Censor domestic American media about whatever's going on at any particular moment - and work directly with whichever Pithecanthropine thug that happens to be running the place.
This works fine for China in Sudan and various other parts of Africa, in Iran, for example, and elsewhere. I mean, Chavez does it, too, so how bad could it be?
There'd be other advantages.
The Americans could cut back on military expenditure and they'd become widely loved in the United Nations. They could join the 'Non Aligned Group'.
The, whoever ends up President this November could waffle on in the General Assembly about his or her commitment to the "struggle against global Zionist Imperialism" and some unspecified future "revolution" while maintaining a steady supply of helicopter gunships, nerve gasses and nuclear weapons technology to places like Syria and Kazachstan.
They might even win a Sydney Peace Prize for their efforts.
Kevin Rudd might even want to learn how to speak in English.
Continuing ...
Glenn Greenwald - Republicans have become the credibility- free party.
Stephen Zunes - Behind Obama and Clinton.
How some people think(?) - William Kristol examined. This is Part III of the series - there are links to Parts I and II.
Now to other matters.
Uri Avnery - From Stalingrad to Winograd.
Saree Makdisi - Strangling Gaza.
More for consideratrion in re my SOTU question.
And think about this.Candidates amd colonisers.
Juan Cole - Blowback from the GOP's holy war.
More on John McCain.
An American colony.
Review of some Israeli books.
Keep this and similar material in mind if you contemplate answering my questions on the SOTU thread.
Tribal awakening
Paul Morrella says "I can only hope that sanity prevails, and all Iraqis turn their collective backs on these lunatics (whatever religion)."
Oh, they have. Even the Sunnis. In fact, especially the Sunnis who got to deal with the malignant emotional bankrupts first hand.
People Of Good Will Can Only Hope For A Better Future
Angela is all heart, isn't she?
Hey Eliot ,how is your invasion of Iraq going by the way?
"Dead? Maimed? Infrastructure destroyed? Freedoms? Life quality and expectancy? Ecological damage? General health levels? Education opportunities ? Depleted Uranium levels? Oil production? Power and influence increase to Iran and Saudi? The latter in your Kurdish areas, so nice for the women there.. gee thanks Eliot for your support of that (and thanks says Israel too) and loss of important international allies."
Given your concern for the Kurds, Angela, and I'm sure it's sincere and heart-felt, you might like to read this article.
Apparently the former ruling class in Iraq is upset that the Kurds are getting too uppity and don't seem to know their place.
I know this has been a constant worry for a lot of folk who opposed the overthrow of Saddam's regime.
Any ideas you'd like to share with us about how to move forward?
Normal services resumed.
Having taken a break from this thread to pursue other matters, ie., following up Richard's suggestion that I do a thread on the SOTU*, I return here with material that does not fit that thread (nor Craig's lie list thread) although there will be similar behaviour exampled. Such as the following about two leading contenders for the Crawford Caligula's job:
Stephen Zunes - Hillary Clinton Again Lies about Iraq.
There are other accounts of what happened, so it is advisable to be think (and research and analyse) carefully before being overly impressed with any one account. Particularly if that account comes from someone who is an interested party.
Justin Raimondo - The Madness of John McCain.
Things change.
To Iraq and there are claims about who perpetrated recent bombings. Again it is advisable to do do some research and not leap on the first account - unless there is an agenda at play. But doubts have been raised. And Chris Floyd on the matter.
Back to an older matter and what did Israel attack last September. And why?
And back even further - an attempt was once made to discredit Jimmy Carter and his book about an apartheid system being applied by Israel on the Palestinians. Here is another piece on the matter. The footnotes are of particular interest.
*Thanks, Richard.
Security and justice? Bombs away!
Tom Engelhardt on the little reported US bombing surge in Iraq.
Pepe Escobar - The state of the (Iraqi) union.
Michael Shank - False Sense of Security in Iraq.
Stephen Zunes - Arming the Middle East.
Another signing statement.
No limits, constitutional or otherwise, for the Crawford Caligula.
Here is a story set in the US that relates to activities in Iraq. Justice for some, license for others.
A matter of priorities.
Blood and guts.
Tom Engelhardt presents Dahr Jamail on missing Iraqi voices.
From a hospital.
On saving Bush's legacy.
Just a few items to keep in mind when listening to or reading Bush's State of the Union address. Which, I presume, will be dealt with somewhere.
Richard: Bob, why not do a piece on it?
More crime watch.
They like to claim they are the "good guys", but "goodfellas" is more appropriate.
James K Galbraith on the NATO preemption suggestion.
More on the Edmonds issue.
To Gaza (and related matters):
Uri Avnery.
Sami Moubayed - The Gaza 'tea party'.
Ghada Karmi.
Ramzy Baroud.
But it does go on ... and on.
Crime watch.
From Claire Spencer - The acid test.
Three extracts from Steele's book are at the end of the article.
Recommended.
From DemocracyNow!:
Hebron.
Where is the justice?
Following on ...
As Chris has shown an interest in the 935, we have follow ups from DemocracyNow! - after that, clock on Next Story for more, in this case:
Also on the site is a story on the Gazans stocking up in Egypt, followed by one on where the leading presidential candidates stand on Israel/Palestine.
Whilst on the subject, Kathleen Christison - The Myth of International Consensus.
And Jeff Halper - Power to the (Palestinian) People!
Philip Weiss reviews Jacob Heilbrunn's They Knew They Were Right: The Rise of the Neocons.
935, so far.
A count of false statements has been compiled.
And it never stops. And sets a bad example.
Part 2 of Mark Perry's article.
Chris Floyd on dirty deeds.The CIA, then and now.
Following up yesterday's NATO article - Paul Craig Roberts.
Philip Giraldi on the Sibel Edmonds matter.
Gazans make an entry point to Egypt.
Revisiting an old article - Manuel Valenzuela The Untermensch Syndrome: Israel's Moral Decay.
Plenty to chew on there.
The deaf and blind and those who aspire to rule.
David Bromwich - Staying Innocent about Iraq.
On the conduct of the occupation, Part 1 (of 2) from Mark Perry on the divide between the Pentagon and the WH and State.
On the conduct of "contractors".
A radical proposition for NATO.
Chris Floyd's response.
A taste:
Today NATO ...
Meanwhile, and far from the above masturbatory excesses, realignments are occurring in the face of realities - M K Bhadrakumar and Conn Hallinan.
On Gaza and the US does it again.
Rice stuck her nose in, of course:
Well, if you overlook what Israel has done for the last 60 years.
From DemocracyNow!.
An extract:
Way past time the crimes were stopped -about 60 years - but when you have a powerful backer then the darker angels prevail. Let us hope that the efforts of those such as in the above piece succeed.
To Angela, good to see you back, and thanks for comments elsewhere. Plenty for you in the above. On another comment elsewhere - about governments lying - happens far too often and is aided and abetted by some in the media. Even by those who should know better. Hard to know how to apportion contempt.
Vindication
"Anyway, trying to associate Osama with Iraq is old-hat stuff.. There are few people left who believe a connection, as you know."
At the rate al-Qaeda in Messpotamia is having it's arse kicked, it won't be long before that statement is true.
At least Omar's not pretending his dad didn't do the September 11 massacre. That's a nice change.
And if it was an act of "war", then that's the complete vindication of the "War on Terror".
Yes, We Have No Osamas
Eliot, you've left out Omar's justification for this statement, which was "Before they call it war, now they call it terrorism."
Anyway, trying to associate Osama with Iraq is old-hat stuff... There are few people left who believe a connection, as you know.
Omar bin Laden chats with CNN
Osama bin Laden's son Omar chats with CNN and explains that the September 11 attacks were "not terrorism" and that his dad was only trying to "help" people.
"I try and say to my father: 'Try to find another way to help or find your goal. This bomb, this weapons, it's not good to use it for anybody'," he said in the interview filmed in Cairo where he lives.
We have no choice but to support the Iraqi resistance
"Throughout George W. Bush's rape of Iraq, which was launched on a sea of lies and spin, the warmakers and their innumerable sycophants and transcribers in the media have relentlessly downplayed the number of Iraqis being killed in the conflict..."
Throughout Saddam Hussein's rape of Iraq, which was sustained for decanded on a sea of lies, spin and Soviet funding, the warmakers and their innumerable sycophants and transcribers in the media were paid off in Oil For Food credits through phoney 'charities'.
They downplayed the numbers of Iraqis killed by the dictator and played up instead Saddam's press releases about the number of kids dying "because of the sanctions" on his regime, recycling this spin as gospel.
They did everything they could to prevent his overthrow. And then publicly supported the Iraqi "resistance" militias.
How's that going, by the way?
The score sheet stands rather starkly for Eliot
Hey Eliot ,how is your invasion of Iraq going by the way?
Dead? Maimed? Infrastructure destroyed? Freedoms? Life quality and expectancy? Ecological damage? General health levels? Education opportunities ? Depleted Uranium levels? Oil production? Power and influence increase to Iran and Saudi? The latter in your Kurdish areas, so nice for the women there.. gee thanks Eliot for your support of that (and thanks says Israel too) and loss of important international allies.
You see if you argue that the Ends justifies the Means (illegal war and invasion and enabling conspiracy and deception of the people of the nations involved ,huge costs human and financial strucutural and ecological and international relations severely damage and US debt unpayable )then let us examine what the "ends" and the cost of these are.
I'm not to impressed with that score sheet.
Perhaps it would have been better to accept the exile of Saddam as was apparently offered. Hmmm. Imperial Forces have such a burden don't they ? Lucky it was all done in defence eh Eliot?
But then better for whom eh? Some are very pleased with this result, like Eliot it appears. Enjoy.
Some are a little more fixed in reality and a little less into the Balkanisation theory for security.
Cheers
Vindication? A load of Old Cobblers'
Eliot Ramsey: "And if it was an act of "war", then that's the complete vindication of the "War on Terror"
With repect, you need to spend more time away from the White House website. Retaliating against Osama is not vindication of invading Iraq. Never was, never will be, no matter what the Bush/Cheney interpretation might be.
I worry about you sometimes.
Delusions.
G'day Craig, ideological blindness indeed, and a disastrous case of delusion - and quote without conscience. Some do have consciences - including some at the sharp end.
Of the damage done, well, if a set of figures is unhelpful, they can always be questioned, however dishonestly as this article claims.
Or, earlier, this from Andrew Cockburn which is part of this from Chris Floyd.
The last paragraph of this article says much. And to the neocons, Iranians also would not count.
Daniel Ellsberg asks why the Sibel Edmonds issue is not being covered by the US MSM.
It's not as if they are unaware:
Oh well, there is a whole ocean in between.
Of the Crawford Caligula can take a trip to the ME - cap in hand and uttering bs - then we can look at what some others are saying.
Uri Avnery - Look Who's Talking. Olmert starts saying what Uri's been saying for decades - but does he mean it?
Chris Hedges - The Lessons of Violence.
Omar Barghouti on Europe's acquiescence.
And for the West Bank?
Something for the neocons to think about.
A failure to think
Johnathon Steele on commentisfree today:
An excerpt, setting the agenda and a cover up?
An excerpt from a book about the Crawford Caligula this time.
Glenn Greenwald on Michael Gordon trying to set the agenda.
Andrew J Bacevich on the surge.
And Juan Cole follows up Bacevich.
Back to the Sibel Edmonds and nuclear secrets issue - the Sunday Times has a story about an alleged FBI cover up. Pieces about it here and here.
Much ado about nothing? Remember that Israeli air raid on Syria?
Fortunate that tourists taking rafting trips weren't construed as terrorists training to attack ships.
Weekend reading.
Some ideas for future reading - James Wolcott looks at some books about the Crawford Caligula.
Of course he has already made "we'll all be dead" only too true for a lot of people.
He set records as governor of Texas, so this aspect of his visit to Saudi Arabia must have been a joy.
And when it was not a sword in his hand, it was his cap.
Those Ungrateful Saudis.
Some want him gone - and give reasons.
There are those who will not like some of the material in this article - they have managed to either remain ignorant of or ignore the possibilities for 5 years.
The Wrong Conversation About Iraq.
Iraq War: 1,760 Days and Counting.
So much blood and treasure ... and costs yet to be borne.
The corpse and the terrorists.
From Tom Engelhardt The Corpse on the Gurney.
Paul Craig Roberts - Leader and Vassal.
Hey, they try to tell us they are the good guys.
Another Successful Day Talking To The Gods
Bob Wall: “The Crawford Caligula's ramble around the ME has come to an end, there will perhaps be much rejoicing.”
Reuters:
Going home ... and should.
The Crawford Caligula's ramble around the ME has come to an end, there will perhaps be much rejoicing. A couple of views on what - or wasn't - achieved:
M K Bhadrakumar.
Hannah Allam.
Armed and dangerous.
A suggestion that others also leave.
Others do what they want, regardless.
And people keep dying.
Yes to Law of the Sea, no to Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty
Craig Rowley: "What does Article 25 of the Convention state, Eliot?"
Well, Craig, it says this:
Are you now saying Iran has suspended passage through the Straits of Hormuz? Only half of which is actually in its territorial waters?
Have they anywhere announced this?
Iran? That champion of international treaty obligations (not counting the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty and various Human Rights conventions of course)?
This is just getting absurd.
It is perfectly clear the Iranian Republican Guard, in a particularly stupid exercise, was trying to test the battle readiness if the US ships in the straits.
The whole incident was captured on video and audio and shown to the world. It was a stupid move, regardless of who your talking monkeys are. Or what was in the white packages dropped in the water.
Once again, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's supporters and admirers in the west are in the absurd position of having to deny what everyone in the world saw with their own eyes?
They have to invent talking monkeys and various other phantasmagoria about the Straits of Hormuz, twisting and turning themselves to the point of popping inside out and blowing feathers out their butts just to protect the reputation of their beloved Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Well, I guess they know now how Paul Burrell must have felt in the Old Bailey yesterday!
Inventing "supporters and admirers"
In response to a simple question about what an article of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, Eliot Ramsey mentions "Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's supporters and admirers in the west".
I don't know who he's talking about, but I know it can't be anyone making comments on Webdiary because everyone making comments on the Iran-US stand-off to date has made it clear they do not support or admire Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Yankees go home - and take CC with you.
William Blum looks at Iraqi opinion - Oh, By the Way, the Iraqis Don't Really Want Us.
Uri Avnery on Bush and Olmert.
Chris Hedges - The End of the Road for George W. Bush.
And the type of person he listened to.
Juan Cole on a would be successor.
A rum crew indeed.
Filipino Monkey- A Fraud With A Theme Song
From the New York Times:
[Kansas City Star extract]
So who used the Monkey to try and start a war?
Now there's a twist...
Richard: "Do you reckon the boats might have been spotted by US satellites as well, Eliot? All I'm going to say is that if I wanted to keep my troops (and public) motivated then this would be a great way of going about it."
Yeah, that could be it. Alternatively, they may have been voices from Mars.
Richard: I was considering the idea of satellite-gathered info being used by ground-based operatives.
Couple of things...
Article 38 of the Convention states:
Regarding "Duties of ships and aircraft during transit passage", Article 39 of the Convention states:
Article 41 of the Convention states:
Two things:
The USA has signed, but Congress has not ratified the Convention
Iran is a signatory to the convention, and is therefore obligated to "not impede" ships in transit through the Straits.
Richard: If a country doesn't ratify a treaty they signed 25 years ago, are they a participant? Do they have the rights offered under its auspices? If not...
Now there's a spin
And a Doosra ...
Did Iran ratify UNSCO?
Richard: ... and did the US ? (pdf)
Golly
It's really very funny to see Eliot Ramsey's theories about Filipino Monkey, Iranian propaganda and movements in the oil price, when also reading the breaking news about Israeli PM Ehud Olmert once again pointing to the big stick "on the table" (just like Dick Cheney does every so often):
What nuclear weapons program? The one the NIE report says there is no evidence of? The one the hawks in Washington and Tel Aviv keep talking about as if it is some imminent threat?
Rights of passage.
An article on the legal status of the Straits of Hormuz.
Read on.
Hi there Navy Boys! So who's taking your wife home tonight?
Richard: "Let's not dismiss the possibility that "Filipino Monkey" could be working for either side. There's a Navy TImes reprint at that link that may be of interest."
Say, that Navy Times item is interesting. Take this bit:
So, quite apart from knowing the exact bearing, speed, timing and location of Iranian Republican Guard speedboats during the action, and the appropriate broadcast frequency, there's a whole bunch of shore based "Monkeys" shouting ongoing insults at Americans in the Persian Gulf?
Golly? Who could it be behind these mysterious broadcasts?
Really, to the extent that Islamo-Romanticism has replaced pro-Communism in the hearts of anti-American extremists, it's local spokespersons now also need to rationalise the more obvious stuff-ups of nutters like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to a degree that hardly differs from their Cold War era fellow travellers' ability to ignore 'show trials', the Berlin Wall and the Cultural Revolution?
What next? Boasting about tractor production quotas in Syria?
Richard: Do you reckon the boats might have been spotted by US satellites as well, Eliot? All I'm going to say is that if I wanted to keep my troops (and public) motivated then this would be a great way of going about it. The situation has Rendonesqe hallmarks.
Good question.
A very good question, Richard, where is Ausaid's money (or rather the Aus taxpayers') being spent? Despite the "progress" spin, conditions are still quite chaotic in Iraq and this hampers progress on what is an enormous job. Remembering that the damage has not just been inflicted since the invasion - the previously detailed US bombing campaign against Iraq's civilian infrastructure from 1991 on and the effects of the sanctions played a part. Then there is the corruption and profiteering by some - as you know so well. As to Ausaid - needs further research.
And the children - who can forget Madeleine Albright's response when the 500,000 child deaths figure was raised with her in 1996?
My mind harks back to Glenn Greenwald's words, as posted on Saturday.