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US Weapons Poison Europe

The author of this piece, reprinted from American Free Press, is an expert on the environment effects of depleted uranium and has worked at two US nuclear weapons laboratories. The piece has been kicking around on the net for a few days but it seemed worthwhile to have somewhere for us to discuss the use of depleted uranium in Iraq. Are we expecting some kind of 'Iraq syndrome' in returned Australian troops? Thanks to Richard Tonkin for adding the links to the article.

By Leuren Moret

A shocking new scientific study by British scientists Dr. Chris Busby and Saoirse Morgan asks: “Did the use of uranium weapons in Gulf War II result in the contamination of Europe?”

High levels of depleted uranium (DU) have been measured in the atmosphere in Britain, transported on air currents from the Middle East and Central Asia. Scientists cited the U.S. bombing of Tora Bora, Afghanistan in 2001 and the “Shock and Awe” bombing during Gulf War II in Iraq in 2003 as one of the main reasons.

In the 1950s the British government had established an air monitoring facility at the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE) in Aldermaston to measure radioactive emissions from British nuclear power plants and atomic weapons facilities.

Ironically, AWE was taken over three years ago by Halliburton, which at first refused to release key data as required by law to Busby.

An international expert on low-level radiation, Busby serves as an official advisor on several British government committees. He recently co-authored an independent report on low-level radiation with 45 scientists with the European Committee on Radiation Risk (ECRR) for the European Parliament.

Busby was eventually able to get Aldermaston’s air monitoring data from Halliburton by filing a freedom of information request using a new British law that became effective Jan. 1, 2005. Critical data from 2003 was missing, however, so he had to obtain the information from the Defence Procurement Agency.

Aldermaston is one of many nuclear facilities throughout Europe that regularly monitor atmospheric radiation levels transported by sand, dust storms and air currents from radiation sources in North Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia.

After the “Shock and Awe” campaign in Iraq in 2003, very fine particles of depleted uranium were captured along with larger sand and dust particles in filters in Britain. These particles traveled in seven to nine days from Iraqi battlefields as far away as 2,400 miles.

The radiation measured in the atmosphere quadrupled within a few weeks after the beginning of the 2003 campaign, and at one of the five monitoring locations, the levels twice required an official alert to the British Environment Agency.

In addition, according to Busby, the Aldermaston air monitoring data provided a continuous record of depleted uranium levels in Britain from other recent wars.

Extensive video news footage of the 2003 Iraq war, including Fallujah in 2004, provided evidence that the United States has illegally used depleted uranium munitions on civilian populations. These military actions are in direct violation of not only international conventions but also violate U.S. military law because the United States is a signatory to The Hague and Geneva conventions and the 1925 Geneva Gas Protocol.

Depleted uranium weaponry meets the definition of a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) in two out of three categories under U.S. Code Title 50, Chapter 40 Sec. 2302. After action mandates have also been violated such as U.S. Army Regulation AR 700-48 and TB 9-1300-278, which requires treatment of radiation poisoning for all casualties, including enemy soldiers and civilians.

In the mainstream press, British officials have attempted to counter the study by blaming the elevated uranium levels on “local sources.” Anonymous statements by government scientists used by the media thus far, however, have been contradicted by evidence disclosed in the report.

Naturally occurring uranium in the crust of the Earth is only 2.4 parts per million and could not become concentrated to the high levels measured in Britain. As far as nuclear power plants are concerned, the lowest levels of uranium measured at monitoring stations around Aldermaston were actually taken at the facility, which designs and tests nuclear weapons—meaning this could not possibly be a source.

Atomic weapons facilities would be more likely to produce plutonium contamination, which was not reported as a contaminant.

This wasn’t the first time a noted scientist has discussed global pollution from the use of DU.

Dr. Keith Baverstock, an expert on radiation, exposed a World Health Organization (WHO) cover-up on depleted uranium. Baverstock leaked an official WHO report that he had written for the organization but was never published. He warned in the report about the environmental contamination from tiny DU particles formed from U.S. munitions.

In addition, Dr. Katsuma Yagasaki, a Japanese physicist at the University of the Ryukyus in Okinawa, estimated that the atomic equivalent of at least 400,000 Nagasaki bombs has been released into the global atmosphere since 1991 from the use of DU munitions. He said it is mixed in the atmosphere in one year.

DU PROFITS

As if Busby’s report is not bad enough, a new book by a leading scientist notes who is making billions from nightmare armaments.

Dr. Jay Gould revealed in his book The Enemy Within that the British royal family privately owns investments in uranium holdings worth over $6 billion through Rio Tinto Mines in Australia. The mining company was formed for the British royal family in the late 1950s by Roland Walter “Tiny” Rowland, who was known as the queen’s banker and the master financial manipulator behind billionaire Robert Maxwell’s fortune.*

The Rothschilds are also profiting enormously from their control of the price and supply of uranium globally.

The ubiquitous Halliburton just recently  finished construction of a 1,000-mile railway from the mining area to a port on the north coast of Australia to transport the ore.

The Queen’s favourite American buccaneers, Dick Cheney and the Bush family, are tied to her through uranium mining and the shared use of DU munitions in the Middle East, Central Asia and Kosovo.

The role that such diverse groups and individuals as the Carlyle Group, George HW. Bush, former Carlyle CEO Frank Carlucci, Los Alamos and Livermore labs, and U.S. and international pension fund investments have played in proliferating depleted uranium weapons is not well known. God save the queen from her complicity in turning planet Earth into a death star.

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Without hypocrisy - many problems don't appear.

Having served on many Juries over the years, I have been more disappointed with the behavior of some members thereof. It struck me after cases like Shirley Beger, that there is too much human emotion in the decisions for guilt or innocence. I developed a belief that, if we really want an impartial decision make on the current laws of the particular country, each should use a computer. This could be programmed strictly in accordance with the law and only the Judge then is needed to decide what is admissible and what is not.

Once the decision is made by the computer, if guilty, the Judge can hear arguments regarding the appropriate sentence. That would surely be better than the grafting, enormously costly Perry Mason types of jurisprudence which we are forced to endure in this country. I make this point in this arena because the hypocrisy of the U.S.and it's allies, including the current Liberals' Australia, regarding nuclear power and/or weapons, has proven beyond doubt to be inconsistent and duplicitous.

Imagine a computer programmed independently by the United Nations and accepted by the Security Council as the final wordon whether certain Nations should have Nuclear Power or not. Imagine that Pakistan, India, Iraq, Iran, Israel, Indonesia and the Philippines were coded A, B, C, D, E, F, and G respectively. IMAGINE then that the basic rules of the U.N. were applied to those letters of the alphabet and see what the result would be. For sure India as a State which has not signed the non-proliferation Treaty, would be scrubbed, whether they were on-side with the U.S. or not. As a sovereign nation, (which means nothing to the U.S.) the Dictatorship of Pakistan is acceptable as a Nuclear Nation. Israel,with the excuse of "we are entitled do defend ourselves" totally ignores the rights of those who they are invading. If one of us was to consider the orchestrated war based profiteering by the U.S. Military/Corporate government and it's cruel ignorance of the pain of their victims - we may understand that the depreciating value of our life-style is just a part of that ultimate plan.

Do you really make your own decisions - or - do you judge by the information fed to you by the media? There is no truth - only the powers that be.

"How does Howard get away with it"?

Just another "fixed inquiry" - certainly not a DEBATE. Howard appointed the Telstra Board which sacked Ziggy Switowski - then he abused Ziggy's replacement for telling the shareholders the truth! Howard chastised Mr. Trajillo for not dishonestly "ramping up" the situation for the "Mums and Dads" - you know - just like HIH and FAI did? Fair dinkum. Now he gives his Nuclear expert and friend the Chair of the so-called Nuclear "debate". It is as much stacked as he can make it - the decision is already made - this is another sick con.

Just a few questions of common sense to Conservative voters. Would you "buy a pig in a poke" (cat in a bag)? That is like taking a Real Estate Agent's "word" that a property is "ideal" for you without knowing it's POSITION? Remember Badgery Creek suggestion as an alternative Airport? The POSITION was THE important factor. Would you accept Howard's "never ever" promise that YOUR area is safe with Nuclear Power? One thing is for sure - we should take note of the sanity of those who are working towards making fossil fuel power more safe NOW. Nuclear power for Australia is unnecessary, is dangerous, will prove to be too expensive and take too long to be effective on global warming.

Let's get real Conservatives - can you imagine the effect on the VALUE of YOUR properties with Nuclear Stations and Uranium enriching IF situated in YOUR ELECTORATE? Do your own research on the subject - learn by history. Don't accept the continuation of Howard's "paid for comment" media and appointees to positions of power. The venal media has reported that Ziggy had "resigned" and "stood aside"! Think - they are two different things are they not?

There is no truth - just the powers that be.

How DO the "Howard" Liberals get away with it?

There should be no doubt in the minds of all Australians that the Federal Liberals are lying their heads off re "There is nothing we can do about the price of petrol at the bowser" or, for that matter "We can do nothing about the price of Oil".

First of all, "they say" that Howard can only do that which is approved by the Liberal caucus.

Secondly, the "Howard" Liberals de-regulated the retail sale of Petrol which gave the Oil Corporations total control, from the oil well to the petrol tank. I clearly remember, listening on the Radio to one of the P.M's Presidential speeches (called talk-back). He praised the Liberal's action in de-regulating, putting forward that this would not only increase competition, but would lower and stabilise the prices of petrol throughout the country! Fair dinkum. Of course it couldn't - and didn't.

Thirdly, if Malcolm Fraser could tie us to World Oil Prices, why can't we cut the ties? And, why are we told two different sources - Singapore and Middle East? Why can't we use our own capped Oil resources?

Fourth, before the First Gulf War, Iraq was producing 3.0 million barrels a day which dropped to less than half a million p/d after the war. It built up to 2.5 million during the Oil for Food scam (remember AWB) but was again "trashed" when Bush, Blair and Howard illegally invaded Iraq. Graph available on http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/iraqa.html.

OPEC now reports that Crude Output has fallen 360,000 b/d in July 2006. (Refer http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060814/nym198.html?.v=48) Of the eleven countries considered, Iraq is listed under "Quota" as N/A (not applicable). WHY?

This reference draws attention to the Iranian production recovering from 3.79 million b/d in June to 3.86 million b/d in July. Which probably explains the "Terrorist" threat to that country by the U.S and their client state, Israel. Those of us who realise that conspiracies are the bases of Global affairs, should note that there seems to be an un-ending string of "calamities" which give the impression of a shortage. Also in the latter reference is the following observation by John Kingston, Global Director of Oil at Platts viz:

"It seems that every surge in analysis about the market being oversupplied with crude is then greeted with a series of incidents that shows how tenuous that supply can be. And .....This is all happening as the fourth quarter - the traditional time for strongest demand - looms over the horizon."

But, never mind. While we pay ransom to the Oil Barons, our usage of this valuable and sometimes, necessary commodity, will be forced to reduce. While the "Howard" Liberals do not have Bush/s permission to sign the Kyoto Treaty, they will nevertheless claim that their orchestrated conspiracy has "reduced" Australia's "poisonous emissions"!!!

Mark Latham would say "How does Howard get away with it?" Ask the media.

Problem with references

Upon reading my article this morning and raising my references, both failed to materialise.

I took them from the bottom of the pages to which I referred but perhaps this is not the way to do it.

One was from Yahoo Financial news - Finance, and the other from EIA Country analysis briefs.

I wonder if anyone could advise me as to how I should make these documents available - in the meantime, I apologise for the obvious error.

Ern G.

oily links

G'day Ernest.

Your yahoo link works OK for me.

The eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/iraqa.html may have been 'moved' or renamed or both.

Is this the page you meant? There's a 'background' here, and some sort'a 'index' here. I haven't read through all that stuff yet, but here's an ominous note from the end of the background:

Iraq assumed a heavy debt burden during the Saddam Hussein years, around $100 billion if debts to Gulf states and Russia are counted, and even more if $250 billion in reparations payment claims stemming from Iraq's 1990 invasion of Kuwait are included. Under U.N. Security Council Resolution 1483, Iraq's oil export earnings are immune from legal proceedings, such as debt collection, until the end of 2007. In November 2004, the Paris Club group of 19 creditor nations agreed to forgive, in stages, up to 80 percent on $42 billion worth of loans. The relief is contingent upon Iraq reaching an economic stabilization program with the IMF.

Regards.

Thanks Phil - spot on

I'm still learning to control this modern technology and when the Wife is playing golf, I sometimes find it difficult.

Yes Phil, the Yahoo one seems ok but I have had the other for some considerable time - and things certainly change a lot don't they?

I also appreciate your points to Alan Curran - I have a "clear and present memory" of 1972 - 1974 and the infamous 13 December 1975.

The very young and even more fascist Liberals have been fed the tripe for decades now, and the truth is only known to those who still remember the real "Lucky Country". The many milestones in caring for everything Australian and for the public, including the first increase in the pension for 23 years, has been largely stowed away in the archives while conversely, the fabricated and organised destruction of that great man is still claimed as a victory for democracy - even by the CIA.

Someday we should put a list of his awards and achievements in this diary - and see how many claim it as "propaganda".

There is no truth Phil - just the powers that be.

Thanks mate.

Oil

Ernest, I assume you think that a Labor government could bring the price of petrol down. What do propose they do, open up the Solo petrol stations again? Was it the "venal media" that made them go belly up, or was it good old union ineptitude. Could you tell me where I could find out what are the Labor Party's plans for relocating Sydney Airport? I have tried all avenues - cannot get a reply from anybody.

a sensible exchange of views

G'day Alan Curran.

May I enquire as to why you might be baiting Ernest?

1a. How "a Labor government could ..."

This pre-supposes that we may, sometime in the foreseeable future, get a Labor government at the Federal level. As many a pundit has it, governments are voted out when the voters get the shits. This is, IMHO, highly unlikely, as the voters have been virtually 'immunised' at the same time as being 'hypnotised' and virtually 'lobotomised' by their flat-panel etc TVs etc. and the lying propaganda coming as an avalanche via the largely corrupt MSM.

Having repeated the ' conventional wisdom,' i.e. that govts are voted out, there was one election where the people enthusiastically voted one in, namely Whitlam's in '72. (ChezPhil's had a bathtub full of champagne bottles at-the-ready. What a party!)

Well, we know what happened to Whitlam; the ugly forces for the 'Liberal' status quo, including a 100+ day campaign of huge black, black headlines on the front page of a so-called 'national' newspaper stirred up unbearable hysteria against possibly the fairest and most progressive government we're ever likely to see. The tendency towards whipping-up hysteria continues with the stupid "17%" accusations, even though Howard himself once presided over higher rates, and that interest rates themselves were/are largely imported , ie. almost toadally® beyond 'local' control, except possibly for some 'enhancement' (ie. the long enforced 4% 'local mark-up'.)

But that could be what 'drives' you, eh Alan? You want to 'rub noses' in the perceived unelectability of Labor, hmmm?

1b. How Labor could "... bring the price of petrol down?"

This pre-supposes that it may be a good idea to reduce petrol prices. I'd say not, actually. What the world really needs is a comprehensive carbon-tax which would price the burning of fossil-fuel carbon sufficiently high, so as to reverse the trend to the greenhouse climate catastrophe, aka the greedastrophe®.

In actual fact, there are mechanisms available to reduce the price of petrol, such as reducing the 'tax-take' but more importantly, reducing the resource-rent rip-offs being 'harvested' by big-oil in particular but all mining in general. In a nutshell, the sovereign owners of resources across the world are having their birthright stolen, with the active participation of governments. That's 'the system', and rotten to the core it is.

Further to this is the so-called 'free-market' swindle; world oil prices are 'set' in three US$ monopoly 'exchanges' where there is now a 'speculative' component active. See [2]. With some effort, Australia could a) free itself from this swindle (by abandoning WPP; world parity pricing), b) move our fleet onto local CNG or LPG which, by burning more hydrogen as compared to carbon, could drastically reduce our transport's contribution to the greedastrophe and (most importantly) c) move, via a comprehensive resource-rent tax to recover a fair share of the mineral boom for we, the sheople.

(Just in case anybody gets the idea to scream "Typical! Tax and spend!" get this: proper price-signals are required to get equitable outcomes and defeat the greedastrophe. The so-called free-market, operating on pure greed is driving us full-speed towards the greedastrophe; ergo.)

2. What "are the Labor Party's plans for relocating Sydney Airport?"

This pre-supposes that any action is necessary, desirable or possible. Here, you could contact the offices of Mr Anthony Albanese (I Googled it up in about 2 mins[1], why couldn't you, Alan?) Albanese is the leading Labor proponent of any action against Mascot, assuming any such action ever could or would be taken. Since the privatisation (aka stupid family-silver flog-off) any action which would in any way affect Mascot's profitability is extremely unlikely, hmmm?

-=*=-

Then: 'taunting' or 'jeering'. Your supposition must surely be, Alan, that all things 'Liberal' are good for us? Like illegally invading Iraq (murder for spoil), house-price affordability now worse than under Keating's 17%? (Due largely to a) printed-money inflationary pressures aided by b) a disgusting capital-gains tax regime and c) sheer and unbridled greed.) Or the slow death of Medicare, aka Whitlam's Medibank?

-=*=-

In fact, the Lib/Lab pug-ugly twins are each worse that the other; both are utter sell-outs to the rapacious 'big end of town', neither will do any single thing 'for us' that could possibly hamper big-businesses' drastically unfair rip-offs of we, the sheople.

-=*end=-

[1] Google(s):

Web Results 1 - 100 of about 110,000 English pages for labor suggested site for new sydney airport site:.au. (1.61 secs)
hit#1: Politics of aircraft noise In 1985 the Labor government selected Badgerys Creek, in western Sydney , as the site for a second airport. Labor then built the third runway at Kingsford ... www.noaircraftnoise.org.au/Politics.html

Refer to linked doc "North of the airport were the safe Labor seats of Grayndler ..."

Web Results 1 - 100 of 1,530 English pages from aph.gov.au for Grayndler. (2.01 secs)

hit#1: Albanese, Mr Anthony MP Federal Member for Grayndler - member of the Australian Labor Party. www.aph.gov.au/A_Albanese_MP/

[2] Howard:

The price of petrol at the bowser has not gone up because of anything done in Australia, it’s gone up because of what’s happened with the supply of crude oil, and that’s caused by a number of things; the huge demand from China, the underinvestment in refining capacity, the impact of Katrina on the refining capacity in the Gulf of Mexico, all of these things have fed in, plus of course the terrible instability in the Middle East.

[pm.gov.au]

Q1: What bullshit could it be, that "Katrina" could possibly affect the price of petrol in this country? Refineries (in the US!) in any case come after the crude oil purchase, said to be the price-driver here.

Q2: Who recently made a major 'contribution' to "the terrible instability in the Middle East?"

Q3: Whadda 'bout 'supply and demand'?

A3: The 'horse's mouth':

FOREIGN MINISTER SAUD: (Via interpreter) As for your first question and the plans for increasing the production, Aramco, the oil company, has already published plans about creating balance between offer and supply. And this does not really affect the current situation because there is no shortage in the supplies. But on the contrary, there is a surplus and it is weird at this time there is a surplus, but at the same time we have this ongoing problem. I can tell you that there is a shortage with respect to refineries and the structure that has to do with the aspect of consumption.

[US State Dept.]

Depleted Uranium

While I'm quite prepared to accept that wind borne DU particles from the Middle East were detected in the UK, it's also worth mentioning that the British army used DU projectiles as well, and I'm sure other countries also do.

What isn't clear is whether these rounds were also used on British army proving, testing and practice ranges in the UK during the periods examined. Or for that matter, in surrounding or intervening countries by other forces. I think that, once an army is on war footing, a different accountability model usually applies when it comes to expendables, ie it's easier to write it off which could result in more live practice for one reason or another. The paper doesn't seem to take into account whether any extra use of the same weapons occurred domestically which might skew their figures.

Either way, you don't want it coming back and biting you on the arse... after all it's sposed to knock the enemy off, not yourself. Roll on a better solution than DU.

What I can't understand though is how one gets charges of profiteering and encouraging proliferation of DU weapons against people who have financial interests in uranium mining or production. Unless Rio Tinto also deals with nuclear waste disposal and enrichment. Isn't depleted uranium just a by-product of peaceful power generation? Maybe I'm wrong.

Here's a vid...

Thanks for posting this piece.

 For those with the ability to share bittorrent files, here's the link to "Beyond Treason", with Leuren Moret, Doug Rokke etc. It is 250 Mb (mpeg4), so quite gettable. Don't fret about the legality of copyright etc. I think the authors are quite happy for the documentary to be distributed in this way.

It is quite an eye-opener for the uninitiated.

Foxy paperwork

In the link behind "mainstream media" clicking through to the conclusion brings you to this:

[extract from Information Paper - The Fox NBC Reconnaissance Vehicle]

The Fox vehicle is a useful tool for warning, detecting, and marking chemical warfare agent contamination. There was a critical need for a mobile NBC detection capability that was not initially present during the build-up of US forces in the Gulf. The US government accepted the fact that although the Fox offered improvements over existing equipment, it also had limitations. Unfortunately, many of these improvements and limitations were not well understood, resulting in misunderstandings about the Fox vehicle. This paper explains the Fox vehicle to help clarify how it was used in the Gulf War. Understanding the Fox vehicle will assist in understanding other narratives as well. Since the Gulf War, the US has made or has planned improvements in doctrine, training, and equipment for the Fox to further increase capabilities for potential future conflicts. Together with these improvements and a better understanding of its role in Desert Storm, the Fox vehicle should continue to enhance US force protection from emerging threats in the 21st century.

Capice?

Non-U DU

BE ALERT AND NOT ALARMED

Don’t you communards understand that to make a Omelette you is gotta brake legs???

Did we shrink from using 100s of H-bombs, poison gas plus the home-grown Owen Gun and that, to slaughter all them Nips on the Kokoda Trail? Any old Digger will tell you that the use of nuclear WMDs 1939-45, like we is doing in Mesopotamia, is the way to Freedom and Prosperity.

Same in Vietnam 1964-75, where in the end we cleverly created the illusion of only taking Silver, to deceive the heartless bestial Asian Communards. But secretly we plastered the little devils with Agent Orange, those wonderful Du Pont mines etc, and now they is lapping up Coca Cola and scoffing Fried Chicken, all four the most massively successful and virulent WMDs money can buy. Now them Viet Minh enemies of us is deader than the Fried Chickens, themselves. Deader than Bert Newton.

Youse communard greenies want everyone to ride pushbikes, drink chardonnay etc, and eat nothing but non-GM lentils and latte (whatever that might be – no thank you). I ask you – then where would we be? Could there be a world as we know it without Monsanto and DU weapons bringing Freedom and Democracy etc? And crops so green they nearly hurt the eyes when you take them out of the frig crisper. And no filthy disease-carrying birds all over the shop to ruin the garden so beautifully crafted from nature in the Backyard Blitz (1940-41).

The women and lasses of Australia can take a lead here, from the kitchens and laundries and Supermarket aisles of the Nation (while still taking in the Melbourne Flying Tram Little Olympics over one shoulder on Nine). There are plenty of good examples of women doing this thankless volunteer work, just like in Melbourne. You don’t see Dame Janette Howard out there hugging trees – she’s right there with her little hubby and Geo. W Bush, fighting the bestial Muslim foe.

So every time Aussiettes are needed, they could slip into silent stealthy commando-like action, just like they did at Cronulla when they threw the Muslimist terror off our beach and back into the sea. And would have done it quicker if they had depleted uranium shells, bombs and rockets up their sleeves. As used by the Israelis to clean out the dirty Arabs and make the desert bloom, and by our own Royal Air Force F-111s to eventually fight off the Pong Su drug warship now that the good old Korean War is on the go again.

And should Aussiettes see a dirty filthy whale-loving (and sex-crazed to the hilt) commo greenie, they can smash them and/or report them to the police etc as terrorists suspects. Sensible. Clever. That’s depleted U.

PS – if the government was allowed to use nuclear weapons against cyclones etc, there wouldn’t have been a Muslimist Cyclone Katrina off Cairns etc ruining everyone’s holidays up North, and Maj. Gen. Sir Peter Cosgrove VC could have fixed bayonets and been put to better use in Iraq.

Yours sincerely

Mrs Betty Gumboid little Aussie bottler-cum-housewife

Wollstonecraft Wollstonecraft

US War Crimes.

It seems an irony that Britain, one of the brave COW members, should be getting radiation from the depleted uranium devices used in Iraq by the Americans (Tony Blair might begin to glow in the dark - it would be the only light he's shown for many a year).

Of course, it is scandalous that many in Britain and the rest of Europe who opposed the war should suffer potential health defects because of the mindlessness and inhumanity of the Americans who, despite their overwhelming military might, continue to use these dirty weapons.

The long term effect on the people of Afghanistan and Iraq, who were heavily exposed when the DU devices were first used, must be even more pronounced. The radiation will continue to surround them everyday for what might be centuries and deformed children will continue to be born.

I hope that American leaders will be indicted and punished for these monstrous, deliberate war crimes and that America will be held financially responsible for any damage that occurs (much like asbestos victims) both now and into the future.

"They hate us for our values," bleat the Americans. What values?

Hamish: expect answers to your final question Bob. "Americans" have many deeply held values, however much various institutions and individuals uphold them in the breach.

Editorial confusion?

Hamish, my name is Daniel, not Bob. Why direct a question to Bob in my post?

In fact, why did you consider it necessary to make any comment?

Surely Webdiarists can form their own opinions without editorial assistance.

Hamish: apologies Daniel. I have no excuse for thinking you were Bob, and my comment certainly makes no sense outside the context of Bob's exchanges.

Breathe easy...

If this is true, then perhaps now the West will enforce a moratorium on the use of DU armaments - as humanitarian bodies have been urging for years. There's nothing that achieves results as when nice, rich, white people are exposed to risk.

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